beccajcampbell Glad to be here. :) #indiechat -9:02 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam Hello! #indiechat -9:02 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB Tonight we're talking about the stigma of self-publishing and what we're doing to change that! #indiechat -9:03 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell And I'm promptly following all of you in #indiechat (that I wasn't already). :) -9:03 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio What's tonight's topic? #indiechat -9:04 PM Jun 5th, 2012
StephanieQueen Hi All! I can honestly say I don't feel any stigma. Maybe I don't get out enough #indiechat -9:04 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn #indiechat starting now... :) Come join us! -9:04 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak That's right. We've all encountered stigma in different ways. What are some of the ways you've encountered? #indiechat -9:04 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn RT @Stacey_WB: Tonight were talking about the stigma of self-publishing and what were doing to change that! #indiechat -9:04 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell RT @susankayequinn: #indiechat starting now... :) Come join us! -9:04 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB We all know that a good book + editing + awesome cover art helps fight the stigma. What are some other ways? @Lisa_Nowak #indiechat -9:05 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @StephanieQueen I'm glad to hear it. :) #indiechat -9:05 PM Jun 5th, 2012
nanettePITTS #indiechat ready to chat. What everyone up to? -9:05 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn :) Loud and proud=my motto @StephanieQueen: Hi All! I can honestly say I dont feel any stigma. Maybe I dont get out enough #indiechat -9:05 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Lisa_Nowak For starters, just people in the mainstream not "getting" it. How can you publish without a publisher? #indiechat -9:05 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam Things have changed A LOT in just the past two years. Before that, many people thought self-pubbers were hacks. #indiechat -9:05 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam I think the Kindle changed everything. #indiechat -9:06 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @chel_c_cam Thank goodness it's changing, too. #indiechat Just going to get better. -9:06 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn The best way for indie publishers to fight the stigma is to be SUCCESSFUL (i.e. sell lots of books). IMHO #indiechat -9:06 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam @beccajcampbell Exactly! #indiechat -9:07 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak Ha! We posted at the same time. I was going to mention pro org. that will let indies give talks but not sell books. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @Stacey_WB I think conducting yourself in a professional manner and running your publishing co. as a business helps. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jun 5th, 2012
nanettePITTS @susankayequinn @stephaniequeen #indiechat I clearly don't get out enough. Lots changed in the world of books. -9:07 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam This: @susankayequinn: The best way for indie publishers to fight the stigma is to be SUCCESSFUL (i.e. sell lots of books). IMHO #indiechat -9:07 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Stacey_WB treating it like a business instead of just this fun hobby you do in your "spare time" #indiechat -9:07 PM Jun 5th, 2012
DiamondLB Hiya! #indiechat -9:08 PM Jun 5th, 2012
adamheine @susankayequinn I'd agree with that but add: don't treat traditional publishing like the enemy. Most don't, but those that do... #indiechat -9:08 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak Personally, I do the job to the best of my ability and don't worry to much about what other people say. #indiechat -9:08 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam I think conducting yourself with decorum, especially when it comes to negative reviews goes a long way. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio producing a project that looks just as good as anything else in the book store is a good start. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell RT @Lisa_Nowak: Personally, I do the job to the best of my ability and don't worry to much about what other people say. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie Hey #indiechat -9:09 PM Jun 5th, 2012
DiamondLB Confession: I don't feel stigma, but DO feel like I don't have the IT factor--I hear I have talent, but no agent "wants" me... #indiechat -9:09 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @adamheine That goes both ways, unfortunately. Self-publishers win in the "we've been dissed for a longer period of time" game. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @susankayequinn I believe that if you're a great writer, then you can overcome the stigma. Let your words speak for themselves #indiechat -9:10 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @chel_c_cam Right. Do not ENGAGE. :) Better yet, don't read your reviews at all. #indiechat -9:10 PM Jun 5th, 2012
SheviStories Sorry, missed the start. Did anyone mention Nathan Bradsford's post on indies who have a chip on their shoulders? #IndieChat -9:10 PM Jun 5th, 2012
DiamondLB Guess that's a common thing. Now, I go indie b/c I dont want someone else holding/directing my destiny/goals. #indiechat -9:10 PM Jun 5th, 2012
DiamondLB RT @susankayequinn: The best way for indie publishers to fight the stigma is to be SUCCESSFUL (i.e. sell lots of books). IMHO #indiechat -9:10 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak I recently taught an indie pub class at an SCBWI conference, and they wouldn't let me sell my books there because I'm not PAL. #indiechat -9:10 PM Jun 5th, 2012
willentrekin Nice to see so many indie authors discussing professionalism at #indiechat. @chuckwendig would be proud. #indiechat -9:10 PM Jun 5th, 2012
MelissaMaygrove @susankayequinn'The best way for indie publishers to fight the stigma is to be SUCCESSFUL(i.e. sell lots of books)IMHO' #indiechat *GOOD bks -9:11 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @SheviStories not yet. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Stacey_WB @chel_c_cam Reading the reviews can sometimes be helpful, though. It's always good to know what readers are saying. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB Exactly. The person who can ruin your career quicker than anything else is you. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jun 5th, 2012
adamheine @susankayequinn Ha! Good point. Though the dissing coming from self-pubbers (when it's there) is more bitter than biased. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @SheviStories Not yet. I read it, I know a lot of the Indelibles did. Us vs. Them is silly. #indiechat -9:12 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 Almost missed #indiechat. Hey all, a little late to the party. ^^;; -9:12 PM Jun 5th, 2012
adamheine @susankayequinn I know for me, I don't auto-judge self-pubbed novels anymore BECAUSE of the incredibly nice self-pubbers I know. #indiechat -9:12 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @chel_c_cam Agreed, though it's still amazing to me that anyone even considers reacting to negative reviews. #indiechat -9:12 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @patricialynne07 Hi! #indiechat -9:12 PM Jun 5th, 2012
SheviStories Indies who throw hissy fits make the rest of us look bad. It's crazy how a few bad apples can ruin it for all of us.#IndieChat -9:12 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @beccajcampbell The only problem is, which reviews do you take to heart and which do you ignore? #indiechat -9:13 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Lisa_Nowak wait they had you give a class but wouldn't let you sell books? that's ridiculous. #indiechat -9:13 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn Hm...potatoe, potAHtoe :) @adamheine Though the dissing coming from self-pubbers (when its there) is more bitter than biased. #indiechat -9:13 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Stacey_WB You have to take them all with a grain of salt. View them at a distance, not emotionally. #indiechat -9:13 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam RT @SheviStories:Indies who throw hissy fits make the rest of us look bad. Crazy how a few bad apples can ruin it for all of us #indiechat -9:13 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @SheviStories So true. But I can't do anything about them, all I can do is conduct my own business professionally. #indiechat -9:13 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam I wish more people could see how amazing and supportive the indie community is. Such wonderful people :) #indiechat -9:14 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie I had someone ask me yesterday if my book was an actual book(meaning paperback). To them just ebook = not real author. #indiechat -9:14 PM Jun 5th, 2012
SheviStories @Lisa_Nowak I know. The only thing we can do is stand apart and not defend them. #IndieChat -9:14 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @chel_c_cam very true. #indiechat -9:14 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @KCircelli @Stacey_WB Exactly. #indiechat -9:14 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn Winning 1 person at a time :) @adamheine I dont auto-judge self-pub novels anymore BECAUSE of incredibly nice self-pubbers I know #indiechat -9:15 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @Stacey_WB @beccajcampbell I tend not to read any (or very few). I don't want it influencing my writing. #indiechat -9:15 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @KatGirl_Studio Yup, it's true. A lot of people were ticked off on my behalf, but I shrugged it off. Bureaucracy. Can't fight it. #indiechat -9:15 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @onemoredraft If you're going to react to negative reviews, do it offline to a friend who will nod and just listen. #indiechat -9:15 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli RT @chel_c_cam: I wish more people could see how amazing and supportive the indie community is. Such wonderful people :) #indiechat -9:15 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @chel_c_cam I agree! I've never met a more helpful and supportive community of authors. #indiechat -9:16 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Lisa_Nowak You can only fight change for so long. #indiechat -9:16 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @JessicaCheramie I've had many an argument about ebooks=real author. It's all about changing people's perspectives #indiechat -9:16 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @chel_c_cam @KCircelli Agree. When I see review blogs that just state flat out "No self-publish books" I shake my head. #indiechat -9:16 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn This @beccajcampbell @Stacey_WB You have to take them all with a grain of salt. View them at a distance, not emotionally #reviews #indiechat -9:16 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki Hello all the tweeps at #indiechat! Stigma of self-publishing eh? Interesting! -9:16 PM Jun 5th, 2012
andreaheltsley RT @chel_c_cam: I wish more people could see how amazing and supportive the indie community is. Such wonderful people :) #indiechat -9:16 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak I ignore the scandalous stories about author meltdowns, agents bashing indies, etc. Too much drama. I've got books to publish. #indiechat -9:17 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @patricialynne07 Fair enough. As a buscomm instructor, this is cust service 101: cust. is always right (even when wrong) #indiechat -9:17 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam @beccajcampbell They don't know what they're missing :) #indiechat -9:17 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Lisa_Nowak I'm with you there! #indiechat -9:17 PM Jun 5th, 2012
DiamondLB @Battista_j yes, it's incredibly subjective!I'm @a place now where I don't long 4 an agent any more. Still gonna get pubbed too #indiechat -9:17 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @beccajcampbell @chel_c_cam I say to myself,"Your loss, youre missing out on pure awesomeness" so I don't get bummed out about it #indiechat -9:17 PM Jun 5th, 2012
DiamondLB @KCircelli Agreed! ;) #indiechat -9:17 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @beccajcampbell Lots more reviewers where those people came from. It's their loss. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio I think there is a vast difference between "self published" and "Indie published" but maybe its just me. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam RT @Lisa_Nowak: I ignore the scandalous stories about author meltdowns, agents bashing indies, etc. Ive got books to publish. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @chel_c_cam You're so right. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki Hi Lorna #indiechat -9:18 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @KatGirl_Studio 'Splain please. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @KCircelli So true. I think with the explosion of ereaders. It's getting a little easier to convince people to try indie. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam I feel like indies take more risks with stories and can break more rules. Pays off more often than not. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @onemoredraft Very true, but if you have to vent or whine, it's best done privately. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jun 5th, 2012
willentrekin RT @Lisa_Nowak: I ignore scandalous stories about author meltdowns, agents bashing indies, etc. I've got books to publish. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli RT @chel_c_cam: I feel like indies take more risks with stories and can break more rules. Pays off more often than not. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @JessicaCheramie Me, too, but seems to be generational, in my exp. younger audience=okay, older expects print #indiechat -9:19 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn RT @chel_c_cam: I feel like indies take more risks with stories and can break more rules. Pays off more often than not. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki From personal experience even with great reviews & movie in development, I've had some reviewers say 'no thanks, don't do indie"! #indiechat -9:19 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB RT@JessicaCheramie So true. I think with the explosion of ereaders. Its getting a little easier to convince people to try indie. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling Hi everyone - sorry I'm late. I was at an exciting baseball game. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @JessicaCheramie With the explosion comes sorting through the good and the bad books. That's where the stigma comes from, I think #indiechat -9:20 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @CKingVan hehe I've had that before too. I usually answer. I'm glad you think so cuz I"m a real author. :o) #indiechat -9:20 PM Jun 5th, 2012
AudryT RT @susankayequinn: RT @chel_c_cam: I feel like indies take more risks with stories and can break more rules. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Battista_j anyone can self publish, your mum, the lady down the street etc. but... #indiechat -9:20 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki I'm just very grateful to all those who did give my novels a chance & recommended them to other! #indiechat -9:20 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @LornaSuzuki Thats just silly. At least take it case by case. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Battista_j But Indie publishing is a commitment to making an excellent product and running a business like a pro #indiechat -9:20 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @KatGirl_Studio Hello Alicia! Good to see you here! #indiechat -9:21 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @chel_c_cam That's what I love about indies. Most don't fall into stereotypes and branch out more. You don't know what to expect #indiechat -9:21 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @chel_c_cam Or there's no one to dissuade indies from not taking risks. Sometimes, businesses like the safe & sure route. #indiechat -9:21 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @patricialynne07 No question. We're human, after all. Perhaps the negative reactions come from those without/not using outlets? #indiechat -9:21 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @Klingorengi You should join us on #indiechat! Discusses stigma of self-publishing! -9:21 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling Great dialogue so far. So what can we do as individual authors to overcome the stigma we're fighting? #indiechat -9:21 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @KatGirl_Studio Gotcha. I was curious. I feel the same. #indiechat -9:22 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @KatGirl_Studio I get what you're saying - it just doesn't bother me to be called self-published or indie. I'm proud to be both. #indiechat -9:22 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @KatGirl_Studio @Battista_j That's a good way to note the difference. #indiechat -9:22 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam @patricialynne07 I totally agree. #indiechat -9:22 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @AudryT: @chel_c_cam: Indies can play with all kinds of things (trad-pub too if willing to try): http://t.co/2EaUKcMc #indiechat -9:22 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @onemoredraft Yep and my print sales are still higher than ebooks. I sell locally, so not sure if I should count that. ...#indiechat -9:22 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Karen_Hooper Sorry I'm late! What we chattin' about? #indiechat -9:22 PM Jun 5th, 2012
SheviStories @laurapauling Just try to be as nice, friendly, and as professional as possible, I guess. Also, we can work together. #IndieChat -9:22 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam @laurapauling Be professional, be classy, put out a quality product :) At least that's what I try to do. #indiechat -9:22 PM Jun 5th, 2012
StephanieQueen @KatGirl_Studio @Battista_ I'm almost as hyped about running the business as I am about writing! I've never had so much fun! #indiechat -9:22 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell RT @laurapauling: Great dialogue so far. So what can we do as individual authors to overcome the stigma we're fighting? #indiechat -9:22 PM Jun 5th, 2012
racheldeagan RT @chel_c_cam: I wish more people could see how amazing and supportive the indie community is. Such wonderful people :) #indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
BiblioCrunch What's tonight's topic? #indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
HeyItsFishy RT @chel_c_cam: I wish more people could see how amazing and supportive the indie community is. Such wonderful people :) #indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @beccajcampbell Some of these reviewers said some self-pub novels are so bad, they dare not chance another, lumping all together! #indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @Karen_Hooper Stigma of self-publishing. #indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn I like this! @KatGirl_Studio @Battista_j Indie pub is a commitment to making an excellent product and running a business like pro #indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling I agree. Any author no matter what route seems to have an uphill battle for recognition. #indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @onemoredraft Possibly or don't get away from the keyboard. I get away & whine to hubby who reminds me everyone gets low reviews. #indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Battista_j I do everything as top-notch as I can and usually get the "wait this is indie?!" response. #indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell RT @chel_c_cam: @laurapauling Be professional, be classy, put out a quality product :) At least that's what I try to do. #indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling No one knows what story is going to take off. #indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @onemoredraft But always surprised when I check print sales at end of month and I've sold about a 1/4 of my ebook sales. ...#indiechat -9:23 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft I'll just toss this out there, but is there also a stigmata (look at me suffering!) of self-pub? #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @SheviStories @laurapauling I think working together is key. Create our own way of doing things. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio But that's an awesome response to get! #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @laurapauling Take care to produce something exceptional.Dont be lazy. Make it happen,because people arent going to do it for you #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @LornaSuzuki I get that, but it's still kinda sad. For them. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam THIS! RT @laurapauling: No one knows what story is going to take off. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
RhiannonFrater As a hybrid author, I can state that the big publishing houses embrace indie authors. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli RT @laurapauling: No one knows what story is going to take off. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
BiblioCrunch I heard Mark Coker of Smashwords speak at #uPublishU and he mentioned that 4 years ago self-pubbing had a huge stigma #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @Battista_j Right because so many things about self publishing need a different mindset. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Karen_Hooper @Stacey_WB Ahh, yes. The pesky stigmas. Can't wait to see where we're at 2-3 years from now. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @laurapauling That's so true. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
StephanieQueen @racheldeagan @chel_c_cam Continue to compete for the Professional Reviews and Contests that allow all books Trad and Indie #indiechat -9:24 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling Though the changing mindset could be a whole other topic. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @patricialynne07 Oh, spouses/partners are not human; they're saints. Period. :) #indiechat -9:25 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli Also, Ive gone the traditional route. it was awful. going indie has given me so much more freedom. And, it's so much more fun #indiechat -9:25 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Battista_j @SheviStories @laurapauling Yes! #indiechat -9:25 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @KatGirl_Studio I've gotten that too. Like they are surprised it's good. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jun 5th, 2012
AudryT RT @susankayequinn: Indies can play with all kinds of things (trad-pub too if willing to try): http://t.co/6tkNa9hu #indiechat -9:25 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @KCircelli there is something extremely exhilarating about the whole process. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @onemoredraft Older generation is very strong and should not be discounted. They are willing to try indie though too. #indiechat -9:26 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @onemoredraft For those that see self-publishing as the last resort. They won't stick around long. #indiechat -9:26 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam I'm so excited to be part of something that feels like it's just starting out. Can't wait to see where things will go from here. #indiechat -9:26 PM Jun 5th, 2012
AudryT Agree. RT @KatGirl_Studio @Battista_j Indie pub is a commitment to making an excellent product and running a business like pro #indiechat -9:26 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @JessicaCheramie so wait, got confused: your print sell more than ebooks? #indiechat -9:26 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @RhiannonFrater Hey lady! Thanks for stopping by! :) #indiechat -9:26 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @onemoredraft LOL Very true. Patient ones at that. #indiechat -9:26 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Karen_Hooper Hopefully the INDIEpendence event will shed some light on the awesomeness that some self-pubs produce #indiechat http://t.co/qKjzwn7Z -9:26 PM Jun 5th, 2012
willentrekin RT @laurapauling: "What can we individual authors do to overcome ['self-pub'] stigma?" #indiechat | Just keep writing better. -9:26 PM Jun 5th, 2012
SheviStories Tired, so I'll call it a night. Check out my blog if you'd like tips for creating pro book covers http://t.co/xg5pfbz9 #IndieChat -9:27 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam I didn't try trad pub, because I knew no one would want my sort-of vampire book. So I went with it and never looked back. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @chel_c_cam Me too! It's fun to be part of something that is new and changing things. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jun 5th, 2012
HeyItsFishy RT @Karen_Hooper: Hopefully the INDIEpendence event will shed some light on the awesomeness that some self-pubs produce #indiechat http://t.co/qKjzwn7Z -9:27 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling Though just in the past year the stigma has changed a lot - for the better. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jun 5th, 2012
CKingVan I'm lil intimidated by blogs & web sites. Thinking of those things kills my creativity. Worry about it when my series is done. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @KCircelli So true #indiechat -9:27 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @onemoredraft Yes. I sell most of my print locally, but w/ POD, it's about 1/4 of ebook sales, which is a strong amount I think. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @Stacey_WB Ah, fair point. Still, it creates a lot of 'noise' that clouds the good stuff and endorses the neg. self-pub view. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn Pls sign up! @Karen_Hooper: INDIEpendence event - the awesomeness that some self-pubs produce #indiechat http://t.co/DT7BiXQ3 #indiechat -9:27 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @chel_c_cam That's why I self pubbed too. Plus, I liked the idea of being on control of everything. #indiechat -9:28 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @chel_c_cam I went indie so i could work with the companies I wanted to. #indiechat -9:28 PM Jun 5th, 2012
AudryT @chel_c_cam I didn't try trad pub b/c they don't even accept queries for ongoing serials. (And mine's vampire, too. :-) #indiechat -9:28 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @laurapauling The way things are going, I think indie is going to be the norm in the next few years #indiechat -9:28 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 RT @Karen_Hooper: Hopefully the INDIEpendence event will shed some light on the awesomeness that some self-pubs produce #indiechat http://t.co/qKjzwn7Z -9:28 PM Jun 5th, 2012
BiblioCrunch self-pubbing is what blogging was 6 years ago. Now huge media companies try to get blogging personalities to join them #indiechat -9:28 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam @patricialynne07 I think most writers are control freaks, so it makes sense :) #indiechat -9:28 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @KCircelli there is something very cool about that. All we can do is keep plugging away! #indiechat -9:28 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @KCircelli I agree. It's tough to weed out. Then you have some who are just trying to get in on it because they see it as a fad. #indiechat -9:29 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @melindamcguire I asked because that's what @eldertreebooks is. It's @aehowardwrites's brain child. #indiechat -9:29 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB RT Pls sign up! INDIEpendence event - the awesomeness that some self-pubs produce #indiechat http://t.co/30jn4wkc #indiechat -9:29 PM Jun 5th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Agree! RT @KCircelli: @laurapauling The way things are going, I think indie is going to be the norm in the next few years #indiechat -9:29 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @chel_c_cam Must come hand in hand with our god complex. ;) lol #indiechat -9:29 PM Jun 5th, 2012
AudryT It's certainly not going to vanish. RT @KCircelli The way things are going, indie is going to be the norm in the next few years #indiechat -9:29 PM Jun 5th, 2012
StephanieQueen @willentrekin @laurapauling Absolutely! Continuing to improve craft AND business, covers, formating, blogs, websites, etc. #indiechat -9:29 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam I'm surprised by how much I enjoy the process of publishing, designing covers, swag, and marketing. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @chel_c_cam @patricialynne07 Haha,I dont think anyone but an author can truly understand just how much of a control freak we are #indiechat -9:30 PM Jun 5th, 2012
AudryT What god complex? *rearranges universe* RT @patricialynne07: @chel_c_cam Must come hand in hand with our god complex. ;) #indiechat -9:30 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn LOL! @patricialynne07: @chel_c_cam Must come hand in hand with our god complex. ;) lol #indiechat -9:30 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio Even though its a lot of work i like that I have control over the final product that is my story, my book. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @AudryT @chel_c_cam I think trad. pub is limited and limiting since their profit margins are so tight. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @chel_c_cam Me too. The whole process is very creative and I find it very refreshing. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @CRiosMyers The idea of forming a group where you endorse each other's books and share a common imprint. To promote each other. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki At a writers con I overhead 2 young ladies say they'd "never stoop this low.Writers only resort 2 this if they R not good enough" #indiechat -9:30 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam @patricialynne07 Precisely :) #indiechat -9:31 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @KCircelli I think in a few years. We'll see the true indies from the fakes because you have to work to be successful. #indiechat -9:31 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Karen_Hooper Me too! RT @chel_c_cam I'm surprised by how much I enjoy the process of publishing, designing covers, swag, and marketing. #indiechat -9:31 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @LornaSuzuki I think writer's conferences you'll find the most stigma. In my experience. #indiechat -9:31 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @FebruaryGrace @Battista_j @MicheleJennae very cool, and it needs to be voiced more. #indiechat -9:31 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn In few years you'll see "multiply published" indie authors & top earners continue to trample the stigma. @AudryT @KCircelli #indiechat -9:31 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling But at the same time, I ran into authors who were all for it and very supportive. #indiechat -9:31 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli Someone told me once that authors must have fragile egos. I think indie authors are better at acknowledging their worth than that #indiechat -9:31 PM Jun 5th, 2012
StephanieQueen @susankayequinn @Karen_Hooper What is the INDIEpendence Event? #indiechat -9:31 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @BiblioCrunch My coauthor and I said the same thing. Self pub is to big 6 what blogging was to the newspapers. #indiechat -9:31 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Cinnamon_Quill *peeks in* #indiechat -9:31 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @laurapauling I think that's my fear of attending a writer's conference. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @BiblioCrunch @KCircelli @laurapauling Probably, but will 'indie' mean the sam>? (how big is indie before it's mainstream?) #indiechat -9:32 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Klingorengi @LornaSuzuki Ridiculous. The tradpub world is in such flux no stigma to selfpub #indiechat -9:32 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @LornaSuzuki Were they published? #indiechat -9:32 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Battista_j you mean the eventual death of? #indiechat -9:32 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @JessicaCheramie May aspiring writers like to talk about it but are there to meet with agents and editors. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki BTW, did you know @WritingGroove is organizing an Indie Book Expo next year, celebrating all things indie? #indiechat -9:33 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling I'd love to see self publishing tracks at #scbwi conferences. #indiechat So much that can be covered. -9:33 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @LornaSuzuki It just takes time for people to readjust their dreams. After wanting trad. pub, it's hard to switch gears. #indiechat -9:33 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam I love that if I decide I want to, I can make my book 99 cents for a weekend. So much freedom! #indiechat -9:33 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @JessicaCheramie So true. You can tell those who write for the love of the word, and those who just want to be a writer #indiechat -9:33 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak RT@KCircelli I think in a few years. Well see the true indies from the fakes because you have to work to be successful. #indiechat -9:33 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @beccajcampbell @CRiosMyers YES! Blurb each other's books, share an imprint. All of that.#indiechat -9:33 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @Stacey_WB I agree. It wasn't easy for me. Switching the mindset takes time. #indiechat -9:33 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @JessicaCheramie So POD to you, then you to local venues? sorry if being stupid. #indiechat -9:34 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki no, but it sounds way cool. #indiechat -9:34 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @susankayequinn These young ladies were just starting out & learning the craft,I don't think they knew how hard it is to trad pub #indiechat -9:34 PM Jun 5th, 2012
DiamondLB RT @susankayequinn: Pls sign up! @Karen_Hooper: INDIEpendence event - the awesomeness that some self-pubs produce #indiechat http://t.co/DT7BiXQ3 #indiechat -9:34 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 RT@KCircelli I think in a few years. Well see the true indies from the fakes because you have to work to be successful. #indiechat -9:34 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Battista_j @CRiosMyers Have you done it yet? I'm curious to see if we're the first to think of it. #indiechat -9:34 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling There are outliers in both traditional and indie publishing. #indiechat -9:34 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Karen_Hooper I'll admit, I'm super happy to be attending a con this year, signing books, and NOT worrying about pitching to agents or editors. #indiechat -9:34 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @Battista_j cool #indiechat -9:34 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @laurapauling That's what I figured. I just want a way to connect with writers and better myself in the process, you know. #indiechat -9:35 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @LornaSuzuki Right. Some of the most vehement stigma seems to come from people just starting out. #odd #indiechat -9:35 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @KatGirl_Studio The papers are still out there, but it took them so long to adapt. They really hurt (I worked for a pape) #indiechat -9:35 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @JessicaCheramie Definitely. #indiechat -9:35 PM Jun 5th, 2012
StephanieQueen One of my favorite things about Indie is the quickness! No waiting a year to publish a book once it's finished! #indiechat -9:35 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Karen_Hooper I had a blast meeting readers and signing at the last event I went to. #indiechat -9:35 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @Karen_Hooper Amen, sista! #indiechat -9:35 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @Stacey_WB They were stunned to hear my books were optioned for movie trilogy & even more so when I said I'm indie author! lol #indiechat -9:36 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @laurapauling That's happening at the Willamette Writers Conference this year. I'm teaching a formatting class. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @KCircelli Yep. Yep. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @susankayequinn Or writers convinced that there is only one real way to go. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @StephanieQueen Agreed! #indiechat -9:36 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @Lisa_Nowak That's awesome! #indiechat -9:36 PM Jun 5th, 2012
karlkirkpatrick hey all, sorry I'm so late. It's been a crazzzzzy week! What's the topic? #indiechat -9:36 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki who was? #indiechat -9:36 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @Karen_Hooper That's how I felt at the WW conference last summer. So empowering. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @LornaSuzuki That's excellent. Congratulations. :) #indiechat -9:37 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @Lisa_Nowak @KCircelli Like to believe that, but always new folks looking for quick buck clouding the field, though... #indiechat -9:37 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @KatGirl_Studio Yes, @WritingGroove is trying to organize this for Feb/Mar next year in Sacramento! I'd love to go! #indiechat -9:37 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @onemoredraft True but the good stuff rises even if it takes time. #indiechat Of course, there is good stuff that the market isn't ready for -9:37 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @Lisa_Nowak @KCircelli ...the hard workers will find more mainstream success, moving them out of the 'indie' label, i think #indiechat -9:37 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @beccajcampbell @Battista_j @CRiosMyers I'm trying to figure out how to do it right. I think a blurb circle is a good start. #indiechat -9:37 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @KatGirl_Studio The 2 young ladies who 'poo-pooed' self-publishing, saying only desperate authors unable to get trad pub do it! #indiechat -9:38 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @karlkirkpatrick hey I saw your book in a BEA pic today! #indiechat -9:38 PM Jun 5th, 2012
AudryT @LornaSuzuki Hollywood doesn't have the stigmas that trad publishing does. If it's hot, option it! :D #indiechat -9:38 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @beccajcampbell Thank you! Casting now! #indiechat -9:38 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Battista_j What exactly do you mean by "blurb circle?" #indiechat #indiechat -9:38 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @onemoredraft @Lisa_Nowak Very true #indiechat -9:38 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn Yay Indelibles! @KatGirl_Studio: @karlkirkpatrick hey I saw your book in a BEA pic today! #indiechat -9:38 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @onemoredraft Some of us plan to stay indie even when we're successful. Why give up the freedom? #indiechat -9:38 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling At the same time if my friends want traditional then I support them all the way! #indiechat -9:38 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki Oh no way that's only like 3 hours from me! I'd love to go. #indiechat -9:39 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio Do you have pix to share?? *puppy eyes* #indiechat -9:39 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @onemoredraft Srry 2 confuse u. POD 2 me, I sell to local stores, @ events & people. Not counting that, have 1/4 pod sales online #indiechat -9:39 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @LornaSuzuki Ooh, I could and would go to that! #indiechat -9:39 PM Jun 5th, 2012
karlkirkpatrick @KatGirl_Studio WHAT??? That's AWESOME! hehehehe #indiechat -9:39 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @laurapauling @Stacey_WB Same here. So ingrained/encultured with trad pub as only 'real' choice. Lkly, wife is smarter than me. #indiechat -9:39 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki wait you meant the Sacramento in CA right? #indiechat -9:39 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @AuthorTiffany Yep. Very hard, but so worth it when you get a letter from a fan of your work. I'd do anything for that feeling. #indiechat -9:39 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @laurapauling Right. Everyone has to choose their own path. #indiechat -9:40 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @AudryT I think you're right, in my case, film producer saw me on MTV interview using my book as a weapon in martial arts demo #indiechat -9:40 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB RT @Lisa_Nowak: @onemoredraft Some of us plan to stay indie even when were successful. Why give up the freedom?// Totally agree. #indiechat -9:40 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @beccajcampbell A group of authors that will look at mss and offer a blurb for the cover. A standing list of those willing. #indiechat -9:40 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @KatGirl_Studio You should check @writinggroove's blog post about her wonderful plans for this indie book expo! #indiechat -9:40 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @KatGirl_Studio Yes, in CA. #indiechat -9:41 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @beccajcampbell Like how authors that share a pub house do it. They get sent a mss and if they like it, they give a blurb. #indiechat -9:41 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @onemoredraft You said it, not me. lol :) #indiechat -9:41 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Battista_j Yeah, that's a start. What about an excerpt of another author's book in the back of yours? #indiechat #indiechat -9:41 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn It's funny how our spouses are smarter than us on these things! :) @onemoredraft @laurapauling @Stacey_WB wife is smarter than me #indiechat -9:41 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @laurapauling Ding ding. I'm happy to start a spreadsheet to keep track. #indiechat -9:41 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki yay! #indiechat -9:41 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Karen_Hooper Ditto! I support all paths RT @laurapauling At the same time if my friends want traditional then I support them all the way! #indiechat -9:41 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak Oh, I think indie 'sucesses' may feel/act/remain indie, but no longer be perceived as such externally. #indiechat -9:42 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie Totally agree RT @laurapauling I think it's important to give back and pay forward. #indiechat -9:42 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @CRiosMyers @Battista_j Yeah, I've done a few of those, actually. #indiechat -9:42 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @Stacey_WB You should have a chat with @WritingGroove! I think it'd be great to showcase talent at this indie book expo! #indiechat -9:42 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @LornaSuzuki Congrats on the film deal! I'm holding out for @JimCameron to direct my Whisper Legacy books :) #indiechat -9:42 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling So everyone sign up for the INDIEpendence event and support your favorite indie author! #indiechat -9:42 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @CRiosMyers @Battista_j But the downside is I think they're harder to sell. Novels seem to sell better than shorts. Agree? #indiechat -9:42 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki well obviously they were misinformed because I didn't even send my books to trad. I chose to do this Indie. #indiechat -9:43 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @srjohannes and I are doing this... @beccajcampbell: @Battista_j excerpt of another authors book in the back of yours? #indiechat -9:43 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @beccajcampbell I think it depends on the novel and depends on the short. #indiechat -9:43 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @JessicaCheramie Ah, got it. Must be nice to have bookstores nearby. Nearest is now 45 min away. Wasn't like that growing up :( #indiechat -9:43 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @beccajcampbell Especially the readalikes.Been wanting to do that--I've got an omnibus coming out in Aug. that could use content. #indiechat -9:43 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn I'll have to hunt down who it was that posted it in my FB feed. #indiechat -9:44 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @JessicaCheramie Helping other writers is so much fun. One of my good friends is finally getting her first book underway! #indiechat -9:44 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @susankayequinn That's excellent. I think it's a great idea. #indiechat -9:44 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @onemoredraft: @Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak Perceived by who? I think it's what readers think that is most important. #my2cents #indiechat -9:44 PM Jun 5th, 2012
DiamondLB RT @laurapauling: I think it's important to give back and pay forward. #indiechat -9:44 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @LornaSuzuki I will. We've got a group of YA authors here in the PDX area that could actually go to Sacremento. NYC is too far! #indiechat -9:44 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @Stacey_WB Oh, no question there! :) #indiechat -9:44 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @susankayequinn That is so great. I always say authors are not in competition with each other. What readers only read 1 book. #indiechat -9:44 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @beccajcampbell @CRiosMyers I think it depends on the authors in the anthology. Fans will buy. #indiechat -9:44 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Battista_j What genre(s)? #indiechat -9:44 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki I will it's so close I have no real excuse not to go. #indiechat -9:45 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @KCircelli Thank you! Mine is a co-pro with Ari Lantos of Serendipity Point films, producer of Eastern Promises, Barney's Version #indiechat -9:45 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @JessicaCheramie exactly #indiechat -9:45 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @JessicaCheramie Agreed. Plenty of readers and plenty of books. =) #indiechat @susankayequinn -9:45 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @CRiosMyers @beccajcampbell I love critiques. And you can just say you don't have time or not a fit if you end up not liking it. #indiechat -9:45 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @Stacey_WB I'm in Canada & I'd make the trip south for an Indie Book Expo! #indiechat @WritingGroove -9:46 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Karen_Hooper @JessicaCheramie So true. It's like saying movie lovers only watch one film. #indiechat @susankayequinn -9:46 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @KatGirl_Studio It would be the perfect venue for you! ;-) #indiechat -9:46 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @KCircelli Yep. I love to help. I just started a feature on my blog 4 YA/fantasy authors & am looking to do blurb/chapter trades. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Battista_j Oh, very cool. Love UF. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling Celebration of quality indie authors: http://t.co/aSjW1KZ4 What is the INDIEpendence Event? #indiechat @StephanieQueen -9:46 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki then I could meet you in RL instead of just you know online lol. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @CRiosMyers @beccajcampbell That's why I don't review things. Just because it's not my bag doesn't mean it's not someone else's. #indiechat -9:47 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @LornaSuzuki That's awesome. Eastern Promises was wicked cool #indiechat -9:47 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Battista_j @CRiosMyers Yeah. It can be difficult, but worth it, I think. #indiechat -9:47 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @susankayequinn @Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak Agreed, but as humans we tend to stick with habits and pass those down... #indiechat -9:47 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @KatGirl_Studio That would be wonderful! ;-) #indiechat -9:47 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @JessicaCheramie you are? coolness. #indiechat -9:47 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @JessicaCheramie That sounds great. I'd love to be part of it! #indiechat -9:48 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki are you talking about your film? #indiechat -9:48 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @susankayequinn @Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak ...so segments who dismiss selfpub now will tend to in future, though w/slow atrophying... #indiechat -9:48 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB RT @Battista_j: Thats why I dont review things. Just because its not my bag doesnt mean its not someone elses. #indiechat -9:48 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki do you have a link to the indie conference post? #indiechat -9:48 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @onemoredraft: @susankayequinn @Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak Indies have to be willing to shake off old thinking, blaze new trails... #indiechat -9:48 PM Jun 5th, 2012
AuthorTiffany @JessicaCheramie @susankayequinn LOL exactly plus readers love hearing what you like to read. Promoting others is huge to me ;) #indiechat -9:48 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @CRiosMyers @beccajcampbell I'll contact you off-twitter to get genre and contact info.#indiechat -9:49 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @KCircelli Yes, the movie project is in good hands! My hubby said Eastern Promises was very good too! #indiechat -9:49 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @susankayequinn @Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak Agreed, but now we're back to talking about the authors, not the audience, right? #indiechat -9:49 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell I review books because I want mine to be reviewed. But I try to be fair as well as honest. #indiechat -9:49 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @onemoredraft: @susankayequinn @Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak which is why I just write my books, and don't spend time worrying ... :) #indiechat -9:49 PM Jun 5th, 2012
karlkirkpatrick @susankayequinn blaze new trails...hehehe it's not so much us who needs to shake off the old thinking, right?! :D #indiechat -9:50 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Battista_j Cool. Sounds good. #indiechat -9:50 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli RT @beccajcampbell: I review books because I want mine to be reviewed. But I try to be fair as well as honest. #indiechat -9:50 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @Battista_j @CRiosMyers Cool. I write mostly UF/Sci Fi. #indiechat -9:51 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 *waves* I didn't know this was going on! #indiechat -9:51 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @KatGirl_Studio If you follow @writinggroove the Indie Book Expo is the May 21st post here: http://t.co/I5Y5o84U #indiechat -9:51 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @onemoredraft: @susankayequinn @Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak The audience likes what they like - changes less often than you might think #indiechat -9:51 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @beccajcampbell I agree. I try to give constructive advice with all reviews. I think it's the teacher in me :) #indiechat -9:51 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @laurapauling and it's that second part that's so darn infuriating :D #indiechat -9:51 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @KCircelli Please. Anyone interested, please email me at jessica@jessicadragoncheramie.com Or go here: http://t.co/rwrh4ZUa #indiechat -9:51 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn Nope. :) @karlkirkpatrick @susankayequinn blaze new trails- its not so much us who needs to shake off the old thinking, right? #indiechat -9:51 PM Jun 5th, 2012
HeatherSutherli RT @Karen_Hooper: Hopefully the INDIEpendence event will shed some light on the awesomeness that some self-pubs produce #indiechat http://t.co/qKjzwn7Z -9:51 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @JessicaCheramie Will do! I'll shoot you an email this week. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @KCircelli Yeah. I'm the same way. If it were me getting the rating, I'd like to know why. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jun 5th, 2012
andreaheltsley #indiechat I am a huge believer in promoting fellow authors. It is a great way to pay it forward. :-) -9:52 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling And constructive reviews only help the author. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @KCircelli Awesome. :o) #indiechat -9:52 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki I didn't know about them before but I'll definitely check it out now. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam RT @andreaheltsley: #indiechat I am a huge believer in promoting fellow authors. It is a great way to pay it forward. :-) #indiechat -9:52 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @andreaheltsley This is a really good philosophy that we should all share. #indiechat -9:53 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling And if an author only has 5 star reviews - no one believes it. #indiechat They think it was rigged. -9:53 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn @onemoredraft @susankayequinn @Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak Audience also doesn't care (generally speaking) about publisher, right? #indiechat -9:53 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell RT @andreaheltsley: #indiechat I am a huge believer in promoting fellow authors. It is a great way to pay it forward. :-) #indiechat -9:53 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @CKingVan U finished your MS? :o) #indiechat -9:53 PM Jun 5th, 2012
karlkirkpatrick @susankayequinn :D sometimes it hurts my brain that the old school folk don't get it. I feel like we're speaking another language #indiechat -9:53 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak Fighting indie stigma is like fighting any other stigma. It just takes time. Hunker down, do your thing, and ignore it. #indiechat -9:53 PM Jun 5th, 2012
HeatherSutherli @LornaSuzuki @writinggroove I think this is awesome! Keep us posted. #indiechat -9:53 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli RT @laurapauling: And constructive reviews only help the author. #indiechat -9:53 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @Karen_Hooper @laurapauling I third that (is that a phrase?). indie is inherently not about exclusion #indiechat -9:53 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @susankayequinn None of my fans seem to care about the publisher. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @susankayequinn No, the readers don't care! I know I didn't before I started self-publishing. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Karen_Hooper Rule #1: You can't please everyone. Write what you love and embrace the readers who love your stories. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @Lisa_Nowak And don't feed the trolls! lol #indiechat -9:54 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio I don't review books because I read too slow but I wanted to do fan art as a form of review in the future. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @susankayequinn The average person generally doesn't know how publishing works anyway, so they have no reason to care. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam THIS. RT @Karen_Hooper: Rule #1: You cant please everyone. Write what you love and embrace the readers who love your stories. #indiechat -9:55 PM Jun 5th, 2012
StephanieQueen Thanks for the Chat! #indiechat -9:55 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @karlkirkpatrick Don't waste any brain cells on it. It doesn't matter.You aren't gonna change their minds about politics, either. #indiechat -9:55 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @Lisa_Nowak Before I got into writing, I did not look at or care who published the books I bought. #indiechat -9:55 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @KatGirl_Studio That's a great idea. I wish I reviewed books more--I just don't always have the time. #indiechat -9:55 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell RT @patricialynne07: @Lisa_Nowak And dont feed the trolls! lol #indiechat -9:55 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak RT @Karen_Hooper: Rule #1: You cant please everyone. Write what you love and embrace the readers who love your stories. #indiechat -9:55 PM Jun 5th, 2012
andreaheltsley #indiechat not everyone is nice in the blogging community.. how does everyone deal with the negativity? -9:55 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn That rocks! @KatGirl_Studio: I wanted to do fan art as a form of review in the future. #indiechat -9:55 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling I review a book if I finish it, which usually means I liked it. #indiechat -9:55 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki @HeatherSutherli I will keep you posted. I think @writinggroove has an excellent idea & many would support this Indie Book Expo! #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
karlkirkpatrick @Lisa_Nowak I hear you girl, I don't bother much anymore! #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @Lisa_Nowak @susankayequinn A great story speaks far more than a big publisher's name, in my opinion anyway #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @andreaheltsley I stay away from the negativity the best I can. #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @andreaheltsley Read fewer blogs. :) #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @Battista_j: @BiblioCrunch My coauthor and I said the same thing. Self pub is to big 6 what blogging was to the newspapers. #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @andreaheltsley I look at it this way: if Blogger #1 doesn't like my book, perhaps Blogger #2 will. #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn I like to let negativity die from a lack of attention. :) @andreaheltsley how does everyone deal with the negativity? #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli RT @Karen_Hooper: Rule #1: You can't please everyone. Write what you love and embrace the readers who love your stories. #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell @laurapauling I don't get those people who review books without finishing them. I mean, really? #indiechat #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
LornaSuzuki Thanks for the chat gang! Teaching martial arts class tonight so gotta go now! #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio Right now I'm a little overbooked but it's on my To Do list #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
calebcasey22 RT @andreaheltsley: #indiechat I am a huge believer in promoting fellow authors. It is a great way to pay it forward. :-) -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @susankayequinn @Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak Agreed: I rarely notice who produced films/TV I see. It's the content I'm going for. #indiechat -9:56 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @andreaheltsley When people are mean to me, I pick up my toys and go home. Why hang out with meanies? #indiechat -9:57 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 TRUTH @KCircelli: @Lisa_Nowak @susankayequinn A great story speaks far more than a big publishers name, in my opinion anyway #indiechat -9:57 PM Jun 5th, 2012
karlkirkpatrick Out of battery! Boo! Goodnight, all! #indiechat -9:57 PM Jun 5th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @onemoredraft That's kind of like asking will we still refer to books in digital form as ebooks? Or will they just be books #indiechat -9:57 PM Jun 5th, 2012
AncientEye RT @Karen_Hooper: Rule #1: You cant please everyone. Write what you love and embrace the readers who love your stories. #indiechat -9:57 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @laurapauling That's awesome. I'm going 2 try doing that after my second book is finished. I'm reading mostly indie books already #indiechat -9:58 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @andreaheltsley maybe it's just me but most are really nice to me. #indiechat -9:58 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j Quick question:My coauthor and I are looking for a Beta reader for a YA funny genre novel.Think Terry Pratchett meets BtVS.Anyone?#indiechat -9:58 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 How does everyone deal with the challenge of distributing your books? It can be a huge challenge for indies. #indiechat -9:58 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @susankayequinn I either pretend I didn't see it, or see if I can learn from it. Some people are negative just to be negative. #indiechat -9:59 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @JessicaCheramie That's all I read because I don't have to worry about taking them back to the library. :P #indiechat -9:59 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling I'll read any book if I like it. A few typos or some wonky formatting doesn't bother me in the least as long as it's not crazy. #indiechat -9:59 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn Great #indiechat tonight! I wish everyone awesome writing tomorrow. Signing off... #indiechat -9:59 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 Do you ever get tired of telling people why it might not be in a bookstore? #indiechat -9:59 PM Jun 5th, 2012
chel_c_cam Peace out everyone! Great chat :) #indiechat -9:59 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @Battista_j I'm always up to review novels! I've done it for a few indie author friends #indiechat -9:59 PM Jun 5th, 2012
BooksOverBoys RT @Karen_Hooper: Rule #1: You can't please everyone. Write what you love and embrace the readers who love your stories. #indiechat -9:59 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell If any indie authors want to be featured on my blog, you're welcome. :) Guidelines are here: http://t.co/AdZ8g95U #indiechat -9:59 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @ClareMarshall13 I think distributing print books that are self published is a hard task. #indiechat -10:00 PM Jun 5th, 2012
AuthorGWParker RT @andreaheltsley: #indiechat I am a huge believer in promoting fellow authors. It is a great way to pay it forward. :-) -10:00 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @ClareMarshall13 not really, bookstores are hard to find here. #indiechat -10:00 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling Lots of work involved to get indie books into stores. #indiechat That's not where my focus is. -10:00 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @laurapauling I can handle a few typos, but I can't take too much crazy formatting. #indiechat -10:00 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB @ClareMarshall13 I do, but then I direct them to our local library or all the places online they can get my books. Keep on! #indiechat -10:00 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Battista_j @KCircelli Woohoo! We're in the final story edits now. #indiechat -10:00 PM Jun 5th, 2012
2smDown RT@AncientEye:RT @Karen_Hooper:Rule#1:You cant please everyone.Write what you love and embrace the readers who love your stories. #indiechat -10:00 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @Lisa_Nowak As long as it's not too crazy, exactly. #indiechat -10:00 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @laurapauling Ditto. I also will contact the author and let them know the typo slipped through since ebooks are easy to fix. #indiechat -10:00 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @Stacey_WB Good idea! I got my book into the local library a few months back, hoping to get into other branches soon #indiechat -10:01 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @Lisa_Nowak hehe :o) I can rent from library on my #nook. So that's what I do with trad pubbed. Keeps me in know w/ trends #indiechat -10:01 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Karen_Hooper Thanks for all the RTs, tweeps! :) Glad my #1 rule rings true for so many. :) #indiechat -10:01 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @BiblioCrunch Hm. Not sure I agree. Give me a minute... #indiechat -10:01 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling @patricialynne07 That's nice. If it was a huge typo, I'd want to know. #indiechat -10:01 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Stacey_WB Night all! Good chat. #indiechat -10:02 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @KatGirl_Studio Oh? Hehe! I prefer buying books online anyway, it's like Christmas when I get them #indiechat -10:02 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling Though I couldn't get rid of the 5 ? marks that appeared at the end of 2 separate chapters on just the epub. #indiechat #crazy -10:02 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell RT @Battista_j: My coauthor and I are looking for a Beta reader for a YA funny genre novel.Think Terry Pratchett meets BtVS. #indiechat -10:02 PM Jun 5th, 2012
laurapauling Okay, I'm off to do the transcripts. Keep chatting everyone! #indiechat -10:02 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @laurapauling Totally. It was one of the unexpected challenges when I started publishing. #indiechat -10:02 PM Jun 5th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak See you all next time. #indiechat -10:02 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @laurapauling Exactly. I've had online friends do it for me. #indiechat -10:03 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @ClareMarshall13 ya my nearest bookstore is about 30min away in the next county. #indiechat -10:03 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @laurapauling Try editing it in Sigil. Best ePub creation and editing program ever. #indiechat -10:03 PM Jun 5th, 2012
andreaheltsley RT @beccajcampbell: @laurapauling I don't get those people who review books without finishing them. I mean, really? #indiechat #indiechat -10:03 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KCircelli @Battista_j Just let me know if/when I'm needed! If it helps, I'm also a creative writing prof. DM me anytime #indiechat -10:03 PM Jun 5th, 2012
beccajcampbell Great chatting tonight, guys. Later! #indiechat -10:04 PM Jun 5th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio ok back to cover work and book tour prep. night everyone! #indiechat -10:04 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @KatGirl_Studio I feel your pain. Back where I'm from, the nearest bookstore is over an hour away. Library = godsend #indiechat -10:04 PM Jun 5th, 2012
susankayequinn My guest post on Indie Author News: Four Ways to Think Long Term in Indie Publishing http://t.co/UF1VtL5c #indiechat -10:04 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 By the way, I'm running a 500 followers contest, prize: $10 Amazon Gift certificate :) #indiechat http://t.co/7IhScxFN -10:05 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @patricialynne07 @laurapauling Having this very conversation with reader via FB rt now. Likes book and wants to help = awesome. #indiechat -10:05 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 RT @ClareMarshall13: By the way, Im running a 500 followers contest, prize: $10 Amazon Gift certificate :) http://t.co/MDsB6jDb #indiechat -10:06 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @KatGirl_Studio @ClareMarshall13 In same boat. Watched all the locals die out, glimmers of hope on horizon, though #indiechat -10:07 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @onemoredraft Very awesome. Especially since there's always a few typos that manage to slip though. >.< #indiechat @laurapauling -10:07 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @patricialynne07 I think the stat is something like, editors will miss 5% of all typos in a manuscript. #indiechat -10:08 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @onemoredraft Competition is stiff, especially here in Canada, where Indigo-Chapters is Queen. #indiechat -10:09 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @patricialynne07 @laurapauling Always. I teach English and am a grammar Nazi with students, yet still... grr. arrg. ;) #indiechat -10:09 PM Jun 5th, 2012
JessicaCheramie @onemoredraft If u go that way, make appt. w/ bookstore. If they buy, then u can just have POD mailed 2 them instead of u first. #indiechat -10:09 PM Jun 5th, 2012
patricialynne07 @ClareMarshall13 We're all only human so it should be expected. ^^ #indiechat -10:11 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @ClareMarshall13 Local book chain outgrew itself. Borders/B&N came nxt. Lcl record store just expanded to include books, though! #indiechat -10:11 PM Jun 5th, 2012
ClareMarshall13 @patricialynne07 Too true :) #indiechat -10:11 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @JessicaCheramie Ah, good tip! Danke sehr. #indiechat -10:11 PM Jun 5th, 2012
onemoredraft @BiblioCrunch ... sorry. Did you mean ebooks will become mainstream via namechange? #indiechat -10:13 PM Jun 5th, 2012
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