laurapauling Looking forward to chatting about New Adult with everyone and the girls from New Adult Alley! #indiechat -8:59 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio Hi everyone! #indiechat -8:59 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @Juliana_Haygert Hi Juliana! I know you from #ROW80. Glad you could make it. #indiechat -8:59 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat I'm here! Representing @NAAlleyBlog How's it going twitter peeps :) -8:59 PM Jul 10th, 2012
teresamorrow Hi everyone #indiechat -8:59 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat @Juliana_Haygert Hello my friend ;) @NAAlleyBlog -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LM_Preston @VictoriaSmith76 Hi! #indiechat -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler Another @NAAlleyBlog contributor here! :) #indiechat -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @VictoriaSmith76 Hi Victoria! Good to see you here! #indiechat -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes welcome! RT @CarrieAButler: Another @NAAlleyBlog contributor here! :) #indiechat -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell there seems to be a requirement that we tweet, "Hi everyone!" when we arrive. LOL! #indiechat -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LM_Preston @KatGirl_Studio You made it :-D #indiechat thankfully so did I. -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB Tweetchat better stop sassing me. Seriously. #indiechat -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 Woot Happy to follow this chat today. #indiechat -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon Alright, sorryIm late, but I'm here for #indiechat Let's talk New Adult! -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @CarrieAButler Hello! Awesome so many @NAAlleyBlog people are here tonight! #indiechat -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes you what up! shelli in the house (is that better?) @jessieharrell #indiechat -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Hi, everyone! RT @JessieHarrell there seems to be a requirement that we tweet, "Hi everyone!" when we arrive. LOL! #indiechat -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012
patricialynne07 #Indiechat time, tweeplez. Assemble!! ;) -9:02 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling So who here writes New Adult? Or wants to? #indiechat -9:02 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Stacey_WB Hi! Good to be here #indiechat -9:02 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 I write New Adult! #indiechat -9:02 PM Jul 10th, 2012
AncientEye Hello! #indiechat -9:02 PM Jul 10th, 2012
patricialynne07 @laurapauling What exactly is New Adult. I've seen the term and have somewhat of an idea. #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert *raises hand* New Adult writer here, soon to be author #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012
lgkelso and another @NAAlleyBlog contributer here! (For a bit anyway) #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler Thanks for the welcome, @Stacey_WB & @srjohannes! :) #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @laurapauling ME!!! I'm 30,000 words into my first New Adult project. It'll be out in September. #isreallyreallyexcited #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @Juliana_Haygert Do you have a book release soon? #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @laurapauling I was going to ask the same thing.:) And WHY do you write NA as opposed to YA...or why both? #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell maybe we should start by defining new adult. do we all agree what it is? #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @chel_c_cam Very cool! #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @Stacey_WB @CarrieAButler @NAAlleyBlog ooh! curious to hear all about you ladies! #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @JessieHarrell Great questions. #indiechat -9:04 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juli_Alexander I'm supposed to be writing, but #indiechat looks like more fun. -9:04 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling What exactly is New Adult? #indiechat Does it have to be set in college? -9:04 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @patricialynne07 Here's a blog post I wrote about NA: http://t.co/5cgMCE1A #indiechat -9:04 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 I've got a 18 yr old daughter. I write what I know, and I love the genre :) #indiechat -9:04 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @laurapauling Me! My NA ParaRom, STRENGTH, comes out in March from @SapphireStarPub. :) #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak Hey everyone! #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012
teresamorrow what is the definition of new adult versus YA? Probably silly question but I write contemporary romance and it cld be NA #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam For me, it reaches the age group of 17-25 ish. Not adult, not YA. In the middle. #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012
patricialynne07 RT @Stacey_WB: @patricialynne07 Heres a blog post I wrote about NA: http://t.co/DBvf7NNz #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling It doesn't need to be set in college, it just corresponds to the college-years #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012
AngelaCarlie Hello, everyone. #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @laurapauling My NA stories are not set in college - but the MC is college age. #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @patricialynne07 my understanding is that new adult is edgier than YA and the MCs are just a little older... #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling are we talking about New Adult tonight? #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam What she said. RT @Juliana_Haygert: @laurapauling It doesnt need to be set in college, it just corresponds to the college-years #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio Yep! #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio The girls from New Adult Alley are with us. #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @chel_c_cam Exactly! #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat Im personally a 20something and I wasn't seeing stories about peeps my age I feel so much growth happens in our 20s. Its needed! -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012
lgkelso @laurapauling I have seen some that could still be NA even though the MC is a senior in hs @Juliana_Haygerti #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling So other than age what sets it apart from YA? or adult? #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling I don't have a date yet, but I just signed the contract with @lyricalpress #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling coolness. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @Juliana_Haygert Congrats! #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes i think it is not only age but also content and depth of content. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 @Juliana_Haygert Congrats! #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Karen_Hooper Yara in Tangled Tides is JUST turning 18 in book 1. So I guess it counts as New Adult. No high school scenes at all. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @teresamorrow not silly at all. it's not a clearly-defined category yet #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling @LisaSanchez3 Thanks! Super excited ;) #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
AngelaCarlie Typically, who is the target audience for NA? #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @VictoriaSmith76 It's amazing the amount of growth that happens in those college years. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
TheRealCyberelf RT @Juliana_Haygert *raises hand* New Adult writer here, soon to be author #indiechat SINCERE CONGRATS! Very proud! -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @Juliana_Haygert congrats!! #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam My NA is set in college, and centers around a lot of issues you have. Roommates, figuring out who you are, choosing career, etc. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert And that too ... RT @srjohannes: i think it is not only age but also content and depth of content. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
AngelaCarlie @Juliana_Haygert Congratulations! #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling Most traditional YA seem to have 15 and 16 year olds. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @Juliana_Haygert Wow, congratulations! #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes @Juliana_Haygert sounds cute :) #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon Indie books are the best place to find New Adult books with authors like @Stacey_WB @AbbiGlines #indiechat -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes RT @MaganVernon: Indie books are the best place to find New Adult books with authors like @Stacey_WB @AbbiGlines #indiechat -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling My Marked Ones Trilogy is technically New Adult #indiechat -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat my #newadult novel THE CRIMSON HUNT is being published as well through @CuriosityQuills. Publishers ARE wanting NA ;D -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @VictoriaSmith76 that's true. I think publishers assume college kids don't have time to read, so no stories for you! #indiechat -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012
K23Detectives #indiechat I got a question, do anything starring teenagers and their problems have to be YA? -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam Another series I have starts out at the end of high school and goes to first semester in college. I'm still calling it YA. #indiechat -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012
patricialynne07 I think my next release could go in NA. MC is 18 & bit more swearing than I'd put in my YA stories. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012
lgkelso Exactly! RT @srjohannes: i think it is not only age but also content and depth of content. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam RT @MaganVernon: Indie books are the best place to find New Adult books with authors like @Stacey_WB @AbbiGlines #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @MaganVernon Aw, thanks! Magan's about to publish a contemporary NA novel too. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @laurapauling There also tends to be a big focus on (life) transition in NA. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @VictoriaSmith76 So good to see so many people with NA books! #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @JessieHarrell which is silly because I read more in college than Middle school and HS combine. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling So there is a clear difference b/t NA and YA - what makes it NA and not adult ot her than age? #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @K23Detectives not necessarily, but I'd say predominately. depends a lot on who your audience is going to be #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LM_Preston I wondered that RT @laurapauling: So there is a clear difference b/t NA and YA - what makes it NA and not adult ot her than age? #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @K23Detectives Not necessarily. Look at Fifteen Minutes by Jodi Picoult. That stars teenagers, but is a very adult book #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @K23Detectives No. If there are older characters involved...I'd call it Family Saga. #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012
K23Detectives #indiechat I ask because my superheroine novel stars four 16 years olds but I'm loath to call it young adult -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012
jayceedelorenzo Hi, all! What are we talking about? #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam Some other great NA authors are @JamieMcguire_ and @amy_a_bartol #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Juliana_Haygert #indiechat It's about the experience. If I read a story about an indep.16 year old mom I'd consider that NA! @srjohannes -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes @K23Detectives depends. Lovely bones came out in adult and it is about a 15 yr old and her family but delas with tough topics #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Karen_Hooper Agree! @VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat Im a 20something and I wasn't seeing stories about peeps my age. So much growth happens in our 20s. -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling tone, language and the stage of life. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
K23Detectives @Stacey_WB I don't write romance, but there are plenty of adults around and aliens too. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @chel_c_cam My upcoming NA novel deals with a girl failing out of college. We need more books with trials of college life. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
rlynn_solomon Hi all. My NA (completed) is about a grad school dropout working in a restaurant. Thrilled to learn more about the (sub) genre! #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @chel_c_cam it's a lot about content... if you'd be okay with a younger teen reading it, then I think YA is the right label #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @jayceedelorenzo We're defining NA and sharing how it differs from other categories. :) #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes @VictoriaSmith76 good point! #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling Adult novels are more worried about paying bills. NA are worried about getting a job, learning to live alone #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @K23Detectives why? what about the young adult title bothers you? #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @MaganVernon Amen to that! #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
K23Detectives @JessieHarrell late teen-20s comic book readers. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @laurapauling I think it's the opposite of the NA vs. YA - it's what you pull back from writing. #indiechat -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell RT @Juliana_Haygert: Adult novels are more worried about paying bills. NA are worried about getting a job, learning to live alone #indiechat -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @JessieHarrell The content is definitely suitable for younger audiences, so I'm not to worried about the age thing. #indiechat -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @KatGirl_Studio #indiechat this seems to be the biggest argument. I DO read and I'm in grad school. NA is happening :D @JessieHarrell -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes @laurapauling i think that is why they say there are not tween or NA genres - b/c they fall into other groups #indiechat -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012
K23Detectives @JessieHarrell Because I get middle age women who read it and then complain about the violence in A SUPER HERO NOVEL #indiechat -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012
jayceedelorenzo @CarrieAButler Thanks! Sounds good. #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Juliana_Haygert #indiechat very true my sista! @laurapauling -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Has anyone read The Beach? #indiechat Thoughts? -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB Why do you think the indie community is more accepting of NA. We all seem to be going for it! #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MeganCashman My upcoming book is about a college graduate. Definitely not YA, so NA it is? #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch ps @Addison_Moore, when are you coming out with your last book! #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @K23Detectives gotcha. comic books should have their own category all to themselves! #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio I just write the book the way the story needs to be written and figure out what to label it later. #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling I don't read any traditional books with the characters in their young twenties. But I could've missed them. #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 @Stacey_WB Because the indie community is willing to take risks #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @Stacey_WB We're not afraid to take risks for what we believe in. ;) #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012
K23Detectives Whats NA and MC by the way #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB The indie community, as a whole, is much more willing to take risks. There is a market and they're catering to it. #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Sorry, what does NA stand for? #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @MeganCashman I'd say so. #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Karen_Hooper #indiechat Too true! First houses, kids, bills, some of us first loves. So much great stuff happens in NA! :D -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012
patricialynne07 What she said! RT @LisaSanchez3: @Stacey_WB Because the indie community is willing to take risks #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak It seems like a lot of adult novels fall into some other genre. Romance, mystery, thriller, etc. #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling So what publishing routes are the girls at NA Alley taking? Small press? Self publishing? #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @K23Detectives NA = new adult; MC = main character #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012
patricialynne07 @BiblioCrunch New Adult #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon Tweet chat is not working well for me. My responses will be slow. #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch New Adult #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @BiblioCrunch New Adult #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @K23Detectives MC = Main Character #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam I've heard author after author who has an NA book that trad pubs won't touch because there "isn't a market for it." #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012
K23Detectives and New Adult is 18-29 target age? #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @MeganCashman Definitely #newadult and potentially adult depending on how it's worded ;D #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MeganCashman I'm very thrilled to have learned about this genre. My book is neither YA or adult, so I at last have a category for it! #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @laurapauling So far, three of us have had luck with small publishers. :) #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 @chel_c_cam Yes! I was told time and again my college aged books had no market. #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012
jayceedelorenzo @laurapauling Both. #indiechat 3 of my NA Sisters have just signed contracts with small presses. -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012
K23Detectives @chel_c_cam That why I never approached traditional publishers, I write stuff there's no market for. #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @K23Detectives sometimes includes 17 year olds too. #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @CarrieAButler That's terrific. So much excitement! #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012
teresamorrow Learning tons abt NA w/ @carrieAbutler @jessieharrell @rylnn_solomon @juliana_haygert @srjohannes @stacey_wb @laurapauling #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam So good to hear! Yay small press :) RT @CarrieAButler: @laurapauling So far, three of us have had luck with small publishers. :) #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @MeganCashman unfortunately, I don't think it's widely recognized. a publisher made up the label & it's caught on w/ some #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Karen_Hooper That's the beauty of indie publishing. We can start the NA wave, and traditionals will see there's a market for it. #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012
lgkelso @laurapauling there are some but they are few and far between #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon I think Indie books like Beautiful Disaster and Easy hitting the NY times best seller list proves that NA does sell #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @LisaSanchez3 I don't understand that at all. Probably because it doesn't make any sense. #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012
patricialynne07 @MeganCashman Me too. I have a short story that I had no idea how to categorize until I heard about NA. =) #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Stacey_WB #indiechat I think theyre willing to take more chances because it's not just about the numbers for them. Good work is first! -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @chel_c_cam @laurapauling Yay, indeed! Thanks, Chelsea. :) #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling I have Easy and What A Boy Wants on my tbr list. #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 @chel_c_cam It makes no sense, lol! Thanks goodness for small presses and indie publishing! #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling I don't have time to read all the books I want to read. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @KatGirl_Studio #indiechat Very important. That's how I work as well! -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Karen_Hooper Yes! @MaganVernon I think Indie books like Beautiful Disaster and Easy hitting the NY times best seller list proves that NA sells #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 @laurapauling Great books! #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB We've talked about the insides of the books - but what about covers? I think you can do things differently there too. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam Me too! Also BD. RT @laurapauling: I have Easy and What A Boy Wants on my tbr list. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chrstinef RT @LisaSanchez3: @chel_c_cam It makes no sense, lol! Thanks goodness for small presses and indie publishing! #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @chel_c_cam I finally read BD last week. I really liked it. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling Easy looks really good, it keeps coming up on my Amazon 'You might like this" #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon Let's throw out another question. What about NA covers? How are they different than YA? #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MeganCashman @JessieHarrell True since it seems new. But my book will be self-pubbed later this summer, so maybe I could market it as NA? #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LM_Preston That's when you have audiobooks RT @laurapauling: I don't have time to read all the books I want to read. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak Is there particular subject matter that makes a book NA? Does it have to be edgy? #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @laurapauling #indiechat small press :D @NAAlleyBlog -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio I liked the sample pages of all of those books. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB I see a lot of simplicity in NA covers. Easy and BD come to mind. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @Stacey_WB gah - covers are tough. adult covers are so boring (IMO). #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
jayceedelorenzo @MaganVernon Yep! In fact, Beautiful Disaster and its follow up is about to be mainstream published. She just announced it. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @chel_c_cam Simple but very effective. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 RT @chel_c_cam: @Stacey_WB I see a lot of simplicity in NA covers. Easy and BD come to mind. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @Stacey_WB Jinx #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon good point. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @jayceedelorenzo Good for her. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @JessieHarrell Agreed! #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @jayceedelorenzo Ha! Did not even see that! D you have where she announced it? #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Battista_j THis just solved my problem of what to categorize my co-authored series as. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat Beautiful Disaster just got signed to a Big 6. Go NA! http://t.co/XJu1f57n -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012
UtopYAcon Hop on the #indiechat NOW to discuss NA #newadult books! -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @Stacey_WB I love what @srjohannes is doing with her book cover. Crowdsourcing! #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @chel_c_cam Right. There are a lot of girl face covers in YA (guilty) but I sexed it up a bit with the NA covers. :) #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @laurapauling Exactly. That's what I'm going to try when I have to do one. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 @MaganVernon My small press created simple covers for my NA books. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MeganCashman I think it depends on the genre. My book is a vampire one, so my cover indicates that. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @JessieHarrell YA covers are more like art. Adult covers can get away with anything. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon RT @VictoriaSmith76: #indiechat Beautiful Disaster just got signed to a Big 6. Go NA! http://t.co/XJu1f57n -9:21 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @JessieHarrell I totally agree, nothing about adult covers entices me other than the October Daye books. #indiechat -9:21 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Globug70 RT @chel_c_cam: Some other great NA authors are @JamieMcguire_ and @amy_a_bartol #indiechat -9:21 PM Jul 10th, 2012
jflamingo2 @JessieHarrell @VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat Yet,nowadays,all ages are at colleges.Late bloomers or realize we can't make it w/o college. -9:21 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @LisaSanchez3 I think that seems to be the trend. Less is more in NA. #indiechat -9:22 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @MeganCashman Definitely don't be afraid of small presses. Many love NA! @CuriosityQuills @SapphireStarPub @JessieHarrell #indiechat -9:22 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @Lisa_Nowak Not necessarily. It's more about the transition into adulthood. If that involves edginess, so be it. :) #indiechat -9:22 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam I'm using NA to share some of my crazy college stories. There are a few *wink wink* #indiechat -9:22 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @VictoriaSmith76 Not sure I want to read the sequel b/c the main characters were happy at end of book 1. #indiechat -9:22 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Quiet_Noise @chel_c_cam I self published to not worry about all that stuff!! #indiechat -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @Stacey_WB @chel_c_cam Guilty as well. I focused on hot people for YA and emotion for NA. #indiechat -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB I feel like a lot of NA is romance oriented - similar to YA. Any NA fantasy or Syfy writers out there? #indiechat -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler RT @VictoriaSmith76: #indiechat Beautiful Disaster just got signed to a Big 6. Go NA! http://t.co/XJu1f57n -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @laurapauling @katgirl_studio - maybe I've just been spoiled by YA covers, but they are some compelling! #indiechat -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012
jflamingo2 @laurapauling Some YA series are progressive in age as they have them grow up from 13 on up... #indiechat -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB There's a wide open market. All NA I see is contemp. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @jflamingo2 true! It's about the journey into adulthood more than anything no matter what the age :D @JessieHarrell #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012
patricialynne07 @Stacey_WB I noticed that too so any romance in my stories take a back seat. ^^ #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 @VictoriaSmith76 I've seen some great paranormal NA. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @chel_c_cam haha! Awesome! #indiechat Gotta love inspiration! -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012
RebeccaTomorrow RT @K23Detectives: and New Adult is 18-29 target age? #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @Stacey_WB @laurapauling Since we are smack dab in the middle should we throw up a NA book giveaway? #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio I don't know if I'd call DITM's cover simple but its a NA cover. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @chel_c_cam Hee hee. Mine's paranormal romance. :) #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @Stacey_WB Love sells. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012
jayceedelorenzo @laurapauling @VictoriaSmith76 Book 2 is the same story from Travis' POV, I believe. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @jayceedelorenzo Interesting. Hmm. Don't know what I think about that. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @MaganVernon Do it. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon RT @laurapauling: @Stacey_WB Love sells. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB Yay! We need more of that stuff. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes hoping 2 highlight talented peeps w/creative covers RT @BiblioCrunch <3 what @srjohannes is doing w/ her bk cover. Crowdsourcing! #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Stacey_WB Many different kinds. @YAtopia_blog held a NA pitch contest today. There were soooo many that weren't romance. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @CarrieAButler So would my friend's book qualify if it's about an 18-y-o pregnant girl in the 50s? It's kind of a "sweet" story. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Battista_j @Stacey_WB Dark fantasy here.#indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Karen_Hooper @chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB Not true! Tangled Tides can be considered NA and it's fantasy/paranormal. :) #indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam Yes, it is. RT @jayceedelorenzo: @laurapauling @VictoriaSmith76 Book 2 is the same story from Travis POV, I believe. #indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @laurapauling I think NA isn't just about a love story, but a lot of them do deal with loving yourself. Gosh I'm cheesy. #indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @Karen_Hooper *adds books to TBR pile* #indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Stacey_WB But really romance is about 50% of the market in general anyway :) #indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012
patricialynne07 @BiblioCrunch It hits the college age. Characters don't have to be in college, but they are between 17-29. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @VictoriaSmith76 I'll admit I like there to be a romantic element. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell I think Entangled Publishing is doing more NA. e.g., HUSHED by Kelley York is classified as YA but it's real more NA in my mind. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012
k_castorena @Stacey_WB So this might be a stupid question but what in the world is NA? #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @VictoriaSmith76 True that. I *may* have been stirring the pot a little. :) #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @jayceedelorenzo Yep. #indiechat @laurapauling -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon Alright throwing it out there. Tell me why you love NA and you will get an EARC of my debut NA My Paper Heart #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @JessieHarrell Entangled is the shiz :) #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @MaganVernon I love NA - what I've read of it so far - b/c it's more mature. #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @k_castorena New Adult - category between YA and Adult #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @Stacey_WB I write fantasy too, but there's always some romance in it #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling But I've always ended up liking the older YA too. #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @Lisa_Nowak Absolutely! The category tells the reader what to expect. In this case, it's a life transition into adulthood. :) #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB @LynnRush writes NA paranormal from the guys POV ;) Wasteland is amazing! #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
patricialynne07 @JessieHarrell I started reading Hushed and I definitely think it fits into the NA easily. #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @Stacey_WB @victoriasmith76 I think there is a romance in everything, even Harry Potter. #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @k_castorena new adult -- targets the 18-29 range #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @MaganVernon It reminds me of college, and I really miss those days. #happytimes #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Karen_Hooper @chel_c_cam Aww, I wasn't trying to sell it. Just sayin some of us have NA fantasy out. No high school whatsoever in the ocean ;) #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB RT @MaganVernon: Alright throwing it out there. Tell me why you love NA and you will get an EARC of my debut NA My Paper Heart #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon I love it because its about people who are my age with things that effect me. #indiechat -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling RT @MaganVernon: Alright throwing it out there. Tell me why you love NA and you will get an EARC of my debut NA My Paper Heart #indiechat -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Lisa_Nowak Yep! NA historical ;) #indiechat@CarrieAButler -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @Karen_Hooper Sell away! I love doing these chats because I always find new books :) #indiechat -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @CarrieAButler Cool. She's just getting ready to publish for the first time. It'll help if she has a genre to target. #indiechat -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @MaganVernon Very true! @Stacey_WB #indiechat -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Karen_Hooper RT @MaganVernon: Alright throwing it out there. Tell me why you love NA and you will get an EARC of my debut NA My Paper Heart #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon mostly adult is too old for me. i don't have kids I'm not married (yet) i just can't relate to them. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012
jayceedelorenzo Mine NA is full of romance, but not the kind you'll find in your typical romance novel. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon I want to read about people who are in the same life stage as me. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Karen_Hooper @chel_c_cam You can be a mermaid and be NA. If your growing your tail into adulthood your good ;D #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling Very true! RT @jflamingo2: @laurapauling Books are a business after all. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @MaganVernon I love NA b/c you can take more risks than in YA. characters have more realistic freedoms. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @jayceedelorenzo like what? #indiechat -9:31 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling Plus you don't have to deal with the parents to the same degree as with YA. #indiechat -9:31 PM Jul 10th, 2012
k_castorena @Stacey_WB O alrighty! That makes since b/c some YA books I've read seemed a little more A vs Y but not quite all the way Adult #indiechat -9:31 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes i think i am too immature to write NA :) #indiechat -9:31 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @patricialynne07: @BiblioCrunch It hits the college age. Characters don't have to be in college, but they are between 17-29. #indiechat -9:31 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @Lisa_Nowak Wish her luck for me! :) If she has any questions, you can always direct her to the 'Alley: http://t.co/MUzT78eg #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling Honestly, I love any story Middle grade, YA, NA, adult if I connect to it. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012
TLT16 But there has always been some NA - think High Fidelity, MTV publishing - they just didn't have a label for it. I think. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Karen_Hooper @VictoriaSmith76 Yes, my mermaid MC had to become an adult way too fast. LOTS of responsibility and pressure. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell Destined probably should have been NA, but I cut out the marriage & kid and made the myth YA #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @srjohannes LOL! I know what you mean. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @jayceedelorenzo I'm NA Sci-Fi Romance *grins* #indiechat NA is all around! -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @srjohannes LOL. It takes all kinds an you do YA so well. Why change? #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012
jayceedelorenzo @Stacey_WB @MaganVernon #indiechat I'm do have the whole kids, marriage, mortgage thing, but still love the age group. It's fascinating! -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler RT @laurapauling: Honestly, I love any story Middle grade, YA, NA, adult if I connect to it. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Sarah_Nicolas OH HI THERE #indiechat I don't write NA or read too much of it, but I want it to be a thing. I wrote this about it: http://t.co/fK3o9eSQ -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert RT @laurapauling: Honestly, I love any story Middle grade, YA, NA, adult if I connect to it. #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon What are the best ways that you all find to market NA? Blogs? Tags? Ads? #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert I love YA but sometimes I get tired of omg-that-guy-is-hot-but-I've-never-been-kissed-before thing. NA jumps that phase ;) #Indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @CarrieAButler Cool. Thanks. :) #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon Definitely check out @NAAlleyBlog Book Rec Tab. Over 300 NA books accessible! #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @MaganVernon True. I guess it would have to go under adult on Amazon. #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 @MaganVernon I'm interested in hearing answers to this! #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes @Lisa_Nowak im afraid NA requires more boy part appearances. or is that erotica? #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon blogs and events #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert EXACTLY! RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @srjohannes Thats' erotica. I've read many sweet adult books with no mention of boy parts. #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @Sarah_Nicolas And this is why we love you. :D #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB RT @Sarah_Nicolas I dont write NA or read too much of it, but I want it to be a thing I wrote this about it: http://t.co/c0wBOdVb #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Kindle Select? RT @MaganVernon What are the best ways that you all find to market NA? Blogs? Tags? Ads? #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
miztrebor RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @srjohannes that's erotica #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @jayceedelorenzo @stacey_wb Yeah, I can pretend to be an adult all I want, but I'm a young adult at heart #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @Sarah_Nicolas <3 #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @laurapauling I LOVE that! NA peeps can do there thing and not worry about the 'rents! It's real life! #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling I think writing a great story will sell NA. #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell RT @MaganVernon: What are the best ways that you all find to market NA? Blogs? Tags? Ads? #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012
overdunne Hey there, folks. Joining in late... #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes the romance must be upped a notch though - @KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling #indiechat #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @VictoriaSmith76 No need to make the parents neglectful or dead. #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes ur sweet :) @chel_c_cam #indiechat #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Is there a blog anywhere that covers NA? Or NA bestsellers? Totally curious about the genre now and want to buy/download some #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 RT @Stacey_WB: RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
patricialynne07 RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @Juliana_Haygert Ha love this! The whole never-been-kissed thing..ehhh #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
TLT16 @KatGirl_Studio @srjohannes Apparently there is a distinction between Erotic Fiction and Erotica. I am not sure what it is. #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @MaganVernon you & me both - although I'm starting to have to face the fact that I'm getting old(er) #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @srjohannes true. I think DITM does a pretty ok job at that. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @BiblioCrunch Head over to @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat http://t.co/FcGraZ55 -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012
rlynn_solomon Yes! RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @BiblioCrunch Check out @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @VictoriaSmith76 Yeah. And that adds so much potential for trouble/conflict as they're discovering the world. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @BiblioCrunch Then you have to only be on Amazon. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @overdunne Hi, Brenda! #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @srjohannes I've read some pretty romance/love intense YA books. #indiechat They aren't all sweet and innocent. -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @Stacey_WB: @BiblioCrunch Check out @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @laurapauling But I do so love to create neglectful parents. Sigh. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 @laurapauling Same here. #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @srjohannes as you know. #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @MaganVernon NA is pretty new w/o a lot of exposure, but I guess the regular stuff. Blog tour, twitter, facebook, word of mouth #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @JessieHarrell Where is Jillian Dodd when I need her? She owns her young sorority girl thing and I'm half asleep at 8:30 #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Sarah_Nicolas Sorry #indiechat people. Trying to catch up. Sorry other people, you may want to mute me for 23 more minutes #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch But it helps you get your name out and get more readers RT @MaganVernon @BiblioCrunch Then you have to only be on Amazon. #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam RT @Juliana_Haygert: @BiblioCrunch Head over to @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat http://t.co/32NBpwhr #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012
rlynn_solomon I call my book women's fiction in queries but MC is in early 20s. Not sure how to market now that I'm in the query stage. #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling A college age student can't get away with never-been-kissed. #indiechat -9:38 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @MaganVernon I was all the way asleep at 8:30. Made hubs wake me up so I wouldn't miss the chat. #indiechat -9:38 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Lisa_Nowak @laurapauling Right! You don't have to take them out! lol #indiechat -9:38 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @rlynn_solomon If you're querying small press, I'd say NA. Big 6 doesn't really recognize. #indiechat -9:39 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @TLT16 @KatGirl_Studio @srjohannes Am I out of line in saying there's NA erotica, lol Technically 50 shades falls into it #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012
jayceedelorenzo Have fun, everyone. Have to feed the kids. #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling I haven't read enough NA books to know how most of them deal with the romance. #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @rlynn_solomon When I queried My Paper Heart I used "Upper YA." My MC is nineteen. #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012
srjohannes so is Fifty shades of gray New adult? #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @VictoriaSmith76 I was going to say the same thing! #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @MaganVernon I wouldn't be surprised if agents had a problem with a 19 year old character. #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert You can sell NA to Big 6, you just have to name it differently ;) But I would rather take my time and fight for it #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @VictoriaSmith76 @tlt16 @katgirl_studio @srjohannes Fifty Shades is New Adult, no argument there. #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 @srjohannes I'd classify it as adult #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @VictoriaSmith76 @MaganVernon and I were saying that too! Ick? #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Stacey_WB @rlynn_solomon Yes and Yes. Only if the sm press states they've been known to accept it though. If not rework #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Sarah_Nicolas I think the point of NA isn't the age or college or whatever. It's about the issues/themes specific to that time in life #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012
TLT16 @VictoriaSmith76 @katgirl_studio @srjohannes Is if Erotica or Erotic Fiction? I really am interested in the distinction. #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012
willentrekin RT @laurapauling: "I wouldn't be surprised if agents had a problem with a 19 year old character." #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @Sarah_Nicolas Good point. I agree. #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @jayceedelorenzo #indiechat Bye bye. TTYL :) -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 RT @laurapauling: @MaganVernon I wouldn't be surprised if agents had a problem with a 19 year old character. #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon they use that in manga. They have always had teen and older teen categories. It's the US who's behind the times. #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @laurapauling I had an agent with my NA book, we just couldn't decide whether to p her age to be adult or lower her age to be YA #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling oh, they have. They always asked me to lower or raise the age ... #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB RT @Sarah_Nicolas:I think the point of NA isnt the age or college or whatever. Its about the issues/themes specific to that time #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @MaganVernon @rlynn_solomon This works too! #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @MaganVernon Ah, I can see that happening. The market is what it is. #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012
willentrekin RT @TLT16: But there has always been some NA - think High Fidelity, MTV publishing - they just didn't have a label for it. #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @TLT16 no clue I don't read it in any age group. #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @willentrekin: RT @laurapauling: "I wouldn't be surprised if agents had a problem with a 19 year old character." #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012
willentrekin RT @LisaSanchez3: @chel_c_cam It makes no sense, lol! Thanks goodness for small presses and indie publishing! #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @chel_c_cam She's 21 in her last year of college and has a YA voice in 1st person. There you go ;) #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012
lgkelso @BiblioCrunch http://t.co/hSkoVMgy is a blog dedicated to NA #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012
TLT16 @KatGirl_Studio @maganvernon The us has MG and YA #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @chel_c_cam You won an EARC of My Paper a heart! Will send it to you after is chat! #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @willentrekin Good point and great book! #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @VictoriaSmith76 Exactly! Glad I'm not the only one who saw that. #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @MaganVernon Happy dance!!!!!! Thank you!!!! #indiechat -9:44 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @KatGirl_Studio Oh Manga, that doesn't get enough play either! #indiechat -9:44 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Froze8 So sad to be missing #indiechat again but I'm not feeling very well today. Spending some time with the family before some reading and sleep -9:44 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @TLT16 yes but in manga teen is 14+ and older teen is 16+ its not the same system at all. #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat HBO's Girls is #newadult Heroine has been cut off from her parents. Forced to survive in NYC at 24 with no money. -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @srjohannes The only "boy parts" I want to write about are lips and maybe biceps. :P #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012
willentrekin Mind, I don't love "New Adult." Yet another not-so-useful (?) designator. #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @chel_c_cam Wait are talking 50 shades? Yeah, that was totally NA, except she didn't have a backbone. #indiechat Most NA heroines are fierce -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012
rlynn_solomon Agreed! RT @Sarah_Nicolas I think the point of NA isn't the age or college. It's about the issues specific to that time in life #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB I want to encourage everyone to use the #NA hashtag and to tag your books NA on Amazon, BN, Smashwords, etc. #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LisaSanchez3 RT @Stacey_WB: I want to encourage everyone to use the #NA hashtag and to tag your books NA on Amazon, BN, Smashwords, etc. #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012
willentrekin The key is independent publishing allows authors to take risks agents/editors/publishers won't let them take. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @Lisa_Nowak @srjohannes I never mention boy parts because I can't even write the word. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @MaganVernon Haven't read it yet. Don't want to pay for it, so trying to find a way to procure it. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling I don't think it's about getting the NA term out there but the age group getting recognized. I don't care what it's called. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon RT @Stacey_WB: I want to encourage everyone to use the #NA hashtag and to tag your books NA on Amazon, BN, Smashwords, etc. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Stacey_WB good idea. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Sarah_Nicolas @saramegibow & @heatherhowland are looking for NA. Melissa Singer at Tor too. Shameless promo of NA contest: http://t.co/slTmNg5n #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler RT @Stacey_WB: I want to encourage everyone to use the #NA hashtag and to tag your books NA on Amazon, BN, Smashwords, etc. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @MaganVernon Then you youths should probably never read my books. :P #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam RT @Stacey_WB: I want to encourage everyone to use the #NA hashtag and to tag your books NA on Amazon, BN, Smashwords, etc. #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012
willentrekin "Don't write that genre. Increase your page count. Change your lead character." Don't hear that when indie. #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @chel_c_cam Ugh, I have it on my Nook app if I can lend it to you I will. #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @Froze8 feel better! #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert Agents @Vickie_Motter and @NovelistLauren accept New Adult too #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @laurapauling But I think by giving it a name, it helps us form a group, a movement? #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @MaganVernon Nice! #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @willentrekin: "Don't write that genre. Increase your page count. Change your lead character." Don't hear that when indie. #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012
OliviaLynnMusic RT @JonathanGunson: #indiechat This impoverished kickstarter indie got it right: http://t.co/SXdUKTQI Went for $4000, got $90,000 -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling @Stacey_WB Yes I agree with that. It does need a name. #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @Stacey_WB I'm fine with the ding dong, I just can't say it. I believe I just call it a "bulge" in most of my books #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam RT @Juliana_Haygert: Agents @Vickie_Motter and @NovelistLauren accept New Adult too #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert Exactly what I was thinking RT @Stacey_WB: @laurapauling But I think by giving it a name, it helps us form a group, a movement? #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @JessieHarrell @froze8 Ditto! #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @saramegibow & @heatherhowland are looking for NA. Melissa Singer at Tor too. Shameless promo of NA contest: http://t.co/j5yHje8y #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @Juliana_Haygert @Stacey_WB @laurapauling Yep! #indiechat -9:49 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @MaganVernon I read that as bugle. #indiechat -9:49 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon Are there any traditionally published New Adult books you've read? Where are they on the shelves? #indiechat -9:50 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @Stacey_WB I can READ it. I just can't write it. :P #indiechat -9:50 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Sarah_Nicolas I don't like "New Adult" term, but heck, I still don't like "Young Adult" either. B&N calls it "Teen" #indiechat -9:50 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @Stacey_WB A beagle? #indiechat -9:50 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @Stacey_WB @maganvernon hahahahaha! the bugle makes you stand at attention. that works. ;) #indiechat -9:50 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @Stacey_WB I'm going to now call it a "bugle." #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon not that I can think of. #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @Lisa_Nowak Boggle? #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @MaganVernon I can think of @dpeterfreund 's books #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam Awesome. RT @JessieHarrell: @Stacey_WB @maganvernon hahahahaha! the bugle makes you stand at attention. that works. ;) #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @JessieHarrell @stacey_wb *rewrites every mention of man parts as bugle* #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LornaSuzuki I did too! lol RT @Stacey_WB: @MaganVernon I read that as bugle. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012
TLT16 Giving it a subgenre/label helps it be found amongst all of Fiction - which is a large category. Helps readers find their niche. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB Okay, giveaway #2. Day of Sacrifice Omnibus e-book to the best euphemism for bugle, uh, bulge. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @Sarah_Nicolas teen is way more appropriate if you ask me #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @MaganVernon Easy Tammara Webber, Because of Low Abbi Gines, Slammed Colleen Hoover. All self pub. All listed Mature YA/ YA #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam I'm rather fond of man bits and family jewels. I also say ____ Jr. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @Juliana_Haygert @dpeterfreund She has the great secret society girl novels! #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012
LynnRush @victoriasmith76 @chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB Thanks! Sorry I missed most of the chat (had to go pick up hubby) #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Lisa_Nowak @Stacey_WB Mr. Happy #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam RT @VictoriaSmith76: @MaganVernon Easy Tammara Webber, Because of Low Abbi Gines, Slammed Colleen Hoover. All self pub. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012
TLT16 @Stacey_WB Love sack of joy #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Sarah_Nicolas #indiechat RT @angelanleese: @Sarah_Nicolas Now that I know what NA is, I can clearly say I support it's existence. Would have done me good. -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell RT @Stacey_WB: Okay, giveaway #2. Day of Sacrifice Omnibus e-book to the best euphemism for bugle, uh, bulge. #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon For traditionally published NA I'd go with the Jessica Darling series, my fav. #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler We have an NA rock star in the house! @LynnRush #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 @MaganVernon Traditional: Love Story by Jennifer Echols listed in YA at Barnes and Noble. 19 y/o college freshman #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012
katmeis @srjohannes Could you define the #NewAdult audience for a newbie? #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012
overdunne I love Tammara Webber's stuff. Definately fits in the NA category. She calls it Mature YA #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam Throbbing member. Sword of desire. You read romance and you get all kinds of good ones :) #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012
SummerEllenLane RT @CarrieAButler: We have an NA rock star in the house! @LynnRush #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012
asgwilli @Juliana_Haygert #indiechat THAT is EXACTLY how I feel!!! -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon RT @JessieHarrell: RT @Stacey_WB: Okay, giveaway #2. Day of Sacrifice Omnibus e-book to the best euphemism for bugle, uh, bulge. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @MaganVernon I don't know about shelves since I e-read, but I think a few are out there. just not called NA yet. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Sarah_Nicolas @Juliana_Haygert totally agree. and everybody knows what that means too. people outside pub world don't know what "YA" is #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012
TLT16 @Juliana_Haygert @sarah_nicolas Many libraries call it Teen now. Libraries are the only place to call them ya. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012
SummerEllenLane @Sarah_Nicolas I totally agree. Just because a character is college age doesn't mean he or she is in college. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012
TLT16 @Juliana_Haygert @sarah_nicolas And teens self identify as teens, so that is the correct term. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @chel_c_cam dang - those are some good ones. #indiechat -9:55 PM Jul 10th, 2012
AncientEye @JonathanGunson: #indiechat This impoverished kickstarter indie got it right: http://t.co/V4Zgk06T Went for $4000, got $90,000 #indiechat -9:55 PM Jul 10th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Learned about a new genre today in #indiechat! That's why i love the group. See you all next week! -9:55 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @VictoriaSmith76 Her stuff is very heavy. Definitely New Adult, same with Gayle Foreman's Where She Went #indiechat -9:55 PM Jul 10th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @TLT16 I know B & N and Amazon use the Teen term because Young adult mucks up the search system. #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012
chel_c_cam @JessieHarrell Oh, I could go on for days. I collect these things for later use :) #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Froze8 On the new adult concept- I like the idea of reading about characters my age, but YA still has my heart #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Sarah_Nicolas I've said before, I think it will just take one BIG book where the author shouts "THIS IS NA" from the rooftops and boom #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB Okay, @TLT16 wins it with Love sack of joy. That's a new one and I read all sorts of trashy romance novels. I'm DM the code. #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @MaganVernon Where She Went - never thought of it as NA, but yes! LOVED that book, btw! #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 Follow @NALitChat for regular #newadult twitter discussions starting end of July! @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012
JessieHarrell @BiblioCrunch thanks for joining us! #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012
laurapauling RT @VictoriaSmith76: Follow @NALitChat for regular #newadult twitter discussions starting end of July! @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MTGReviews @Sarah_Nicolas @Juliana_Haygert I have to explain what YA is on a reg basis. Now to have to explain NA... Wonderful! #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012
AncientEye RT @Stacey_WB: are looking for NA. Melissa Singer at Tor too. Shameless promo of NA contest: http://t.co/sMHNG7BL #indiechat -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon Someone asked for a definition of New Adult: Books with characters in the age range between YA and adult is the simple answer #indiechat -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Juliana_Haygert @Sarah_Nicolas oh, and we all would love to be the author of that book lol #indiechat -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012
VictoriaSmith76 RT @BiblioCrunch: Learned about a new genre today in #indiechat! That's why i love the group. See you all next week! -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MTGReviews @Sarah_Nicolas What if people think they're calling the book "Not Applicable"? ;) #indiechat -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB @TLT16 I'll DM the code. I am not just a code! #indiechat -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012
CarrieAButler @Sarah_Nicolas Hey, I'll be happy to start shouting in March of 2013. *Grins* http://t.co/amcuUmZJ #indiechat #ihavenoshame -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012
SummerEllenLane Just came across a new NA author, Shawn Keenan.... #indiechat http://t.co/w8CSocgh -9:58 PM Jul 10th, 2012
MaganVernon @JessieHarrell I didn't even read "If I stay" when I got an ARC of Where She Went. I loved it all on its own. #indiechat -9:58 PM Jul 10th, 2012
AncientEye RT @Sarah_Nicolas: are looking for NA. Melissa Singer at Tor too. Shameless promo of NA contest: http://t.co/sMHNG7BL #indiechat -9:58 PM Jul 10th, 2012
Stacey_WB RT @VictoriaSmith76: Follow @NALitChat for regular #newadult twitter discussions starting end of July! @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat -9:58 PM Jul 10th, 2012
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