Thursday, October 4, 2012

10/2 #indiechat transcript 5 Year Plan with Susan Kaye Quinn and Denise Grover Swank


IndelibleWriter #indiechat tonight 9pm EST with @susankayequinn & Denise Grover Swank --Creating the 5 year plan! A must for all authors! -11:27 AM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn RT @IndelibleWriter: RT @IndelibleWriter: #indiechat tonight 9pm EST with @susankayequinn & Denise Grover Swank --Creating the 5 year plan! A must for al ... -11:43 AM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank RT @IndelibleWriter: RT @IndelibleWriter: #indiechat tonight 9pm EST with @susankayequinn & Denise Grover Swank --Creating the 5 year plan! A must for al ... -11:48 AM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
EmWantstowrite RT @GeneLempp: RT @GeneLempp: Another #NaNoWriMo… Will This Year Be Different? http://t.co/a1CAz14z via @storyfix #writing #writers #indiechat -12:34 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
HeatherSunseri RT @IndelibleWriter: #indiechat tonight 9pm EST w/ @susankayequinn & Denise Grover Swank --Creating the 5 year plan! A must for all authors! -1:11 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling #indiechat tonight 9pm EST with @susankayequinn & Denise Grover Swank --Creating the 5 year plan! A must for all authors! -1:27 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
AnshaKotyk @laurapauling It's just me and the kids but I'm hoping to make this one! #indiechat -1:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank Hey, y'all. I'm going to be on #indiechat with @susankayequinn talking about business plans for authors! -3:57 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn RT @DeniseMSwank: RT @DeniseMSwank: Hey, y'all. I'm going to be on #indiechat with @susankayequinn talking about business plans for authors! -4:30 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes woot welcome! RT @DeniseMSwank: Hey, y'all. I'm going to be on #indiechat with @susankayequinn talking about business plans for authors! -4:52 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
IndieAuthorNews Book Promotions - Book Features - Author Interviews ? http://t.co/q11uqNEE ? ...where Readers discover new Authors - #AmWriting #IndieChat -4:56 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling RT @srjohannes: RT @srjohannes: woot welcome! RT @DeniseMSwank: Hey, y'all. I'm going to be on #indiechat with @susankayequinn talking about business pl ... -5:58 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @susankayequinn See you tonight at 9 for #indiechat -5:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
jemifraser RT @srjohannes: RT @srjohannes: woot welcome! RT @DeniseMSwank: Hey, y'all. I'm going to be on #indiechat with @susankayequinn talking about business pl ... -6:16 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
AlanKealey Book Promotions - Book Features - Author Interviews ? http://t.co/H6p26kEg ? ...where Readers discover new Authors - #AmWriting #IndieChat -6:20 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
beccajcampbell If you're an indie author or want to be one someday, don't miss #indiechat tonight at 9pm EST! -6:39 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
angelakulig RT @beccajcampbell: RT @beccajcampbell: If you're an indie author or want to be one someday, don't miss #indiechat tonight at 9pm EST! -6:39 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MichelV69 RT @beccajcampbell: RT @beccajcampbell: If you're an indie author or want to be one someday, don't miss #indiechat tonight at 9pm EST! -6:40 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Karen_Hooper RT @laurapauling: RT @laurapauling: #indiechat tonight 9pm EST with @susankayequinn & Denise Grover Swank --Creating the 5 year plan! A must for all a ... -7:42 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston I'm researching publicist and how I want to use one next year, anyone have any advice #indiechat -7:57 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
IndelibleWriter Let's talk about the 5 yr business plan! If you're an indie author or want to be one someday, don't miss #indiechat tonight at 9pm EST! -7:58 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon RT @IndelibleWriter: RT @IndelibleWriter: Let's talk about the 5 yr business plan! If you're an indie author or want to be one someday, don't miss #indiechat ... -7:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling #indiechat is about to start with @susankayequinn and @DeniseMSwank ! Don't miss out! A must for all serious authors! -7:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio Hi everyone! #indiechat -7:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn RT @laurapauling: RT @laurapauling: #indiechat is about to start with @susankayequinn and @DeniseMSwank ! Don't miss out! A must for all serious authors! -7:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Hola indiechatters! #indiechat -8:00 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
SuttonShields Yay! Chat time! Hi y'all!!! #indiechat -8:00 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston Howdy #indiechat -8:00 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank HI everyone! I'm excited to be here! #indiechat -8:01 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley #indiechat Hello - So happy to join you guys tonight! -8:01 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio Ooo good topic. #indiechat -8:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn I'm excited to get all business-like tonight with the amazing @DeniseMSwank #indiechat -8:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @LM_Preston hey hey. #indiechat -8:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MichelV69 Good evening, all! #indiechat -8:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling Hi everyone! Should be good tonight! #indiechat -8:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston @KatGirl_Studio Hey lady, I'm playing hookey from writing this script that's due in 1 week O_o #indiechat -8:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch Hello #indiechat! Love the topic, after all we ARE a business to help authors with their goals! -8:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @DeniseMSwank Hi there! So glad you chat with us tonight! #indiechat -8:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio How's everyone today? It's a blistering 100 degrees here. #indiechat -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
HeatherSunseri Great topic tonight on #indiechat for all authors. The 5-year business plan. With @susankayequinn and @DeniseMSwank -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling Welcome Sue and Denise! We're talking about our business plan! #indiechat -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @LM_Preston a script for what? #indiechat -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston YaY! Glad you're here :-D @DeniseMSwank #indiechat -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Addison_Moore I'll be popping in and out, but hello! #indiechat -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley @KatGirl_Studio You must live in SoCal! #indiechat -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes hello! missed everyone. #indiechat -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @LM_Preston you got the files you needed right? #indiechat -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston Bandits and Purgatory Reign RT @KatGirl_Studio: LM_Preston a script for what? #indiechat -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio Yikes! We're getting fall colors here in the Midwest. #indiechat -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Addison_Moore RT @IndelibleWriter: RT @IndelibleWriter: Let's talk about the 5 yr business plan! If you're an indie author or want to be one someday, don't miss #indiechat ... -8:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @LynNerdKelley No north cal actually, about 20/30min from SF. #indiechat -8:04 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling So let's get started! First both Sue and Denise have incredible sales! And hopefully will link to some of their past blog posts! #indiechat -8:04 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley Over 100 here in SoCal this week! #indiechat -8:04 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LawsonWrites Love this topic #indiechat -8:04 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston 5 Year business plan! That's what I'm talking about Indie's taking business to the next level #indiechat Yay! Great topic. -8:04 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling When should we first think about a business plan? Hopefully late is better than never. #indiechat -8:05 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio We're having a heatwave here in the Bay Area with a 30 degree drop by the weekend and rain. It's crazy! #indiechat -8:05 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley #indiechat Woo hoo! Hooray for your sales Sue and Denise! -8:05 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Being indie means being a small business. Every business needs a plan, and creative people need two: business/marketing &creative #indiechat -8:05 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 Hello #indiechat! Great to be on here. I've been a bit overloaded with school and work but I'm in the business of helping authors :) -8:05 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston @srjohannes Hi! haven't seen ya in awhile :-D #indiechat -8:05 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @LM_Preston movie script, comic script, trailer script? #indiechat -8:05 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn I know i need to make a plan. #indiechat -8:06 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston How many of you started a business plan? #indiechat Just curious. -8:06 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling So where do we start? #indiechat -8:06 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Thanks @laurapauling! My 10k sales party today has been blowing me away - people are so supportive and awesome. #indiechat -8:06 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @LM_Preston I have one but feel it flexes due to things out of my control. #indiechat -8:06 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank I didn't consider a plan until 6 months into my indie journey. I'd sold a lot of books last Dec, realized I needed to get serious #indiechat -8:06 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston We started one 6 months prior to launching our first book #indiechat only because we had started other businesses before & 2 ppl involved -8:07 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Good pt - never too late to start! @DeniseMSwank: I didnt consider a plan until 6 months into my indie journey. #indiechat -8:07 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @DeniseMSwank Where do we start with a business plan? #indiechat What kinds of things go into it? -8:08 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling ya. That's what I'm wondering too. #indiechat -8:08 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston @DeniseMSwank #indiechat What's some good software that can help lead us in building a business plan? -8:08 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LawsonWrites I always have goals and flexible plans. This is a new game for me so it's a little bit like learning on the job #indiechat -8:08 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @laurapauling I had trouble finding plans specific to authors. I ended up following a SBA plan (Sm Bus Assoc) #indiechat -8:08 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
SuttonShields When creating a business plan, how do you determine pricing--start low (.99), increase later (say to $2.99)? Vice versa? #indiechat -8:09 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @laurapauling There are a lot more examples for authors on the internet now #indiechat -8:09 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @DeniseMSwank Thankfully Indie authors are an open bunch. #indiechat -8:09 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @LM_Preston I didn't use any software. I just used examples from other people. #indiechat -8:10 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn I made up my own plan, but basically started with 5yr goal, 1 yr goal, then strategies to meet those goals; also: time for review #indiechat -8:10 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling Anyone feel free to jump in with questions. #indiechat -8:10 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio The closest I've come to a biz plan is The Artist's Blue Print from Drawn By Success. #indiechat -8:10 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @laurapauling YES! I love that about writer community. #indiechat -8:10 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @DeniseMSwank can you share those examples? #indiechat -8:10 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn that's smart. #indiechat -8:11 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling What are the most important items to include? #indiechat -8:11 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @SuttonShields Pricing is a tough topic - I think you start with what you think will work, then be open to experimentation #indiechat -8:11 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Karen_Hooper I already created my plan but I'm lurking. :) #indiechat -8:11 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Stacey_WB RT @susankayequinn: I made up my own plan, but basically started with 5yr goal, 1 yr goal, then strategies to meet those goals #indiechat -8:11 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling I feel like the entire plan has to be a work in progress constantly adjusting based on sales...etc. #indiechat -8:11 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston @KatGirl_Studio screenplay #indiechat we had request I have 2 weeks to turn it around. Don't know if anything will come of it but hey y not -8:11 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
HeatherSunseri Amen!! Me too! RT @DeniseMSwank: @laurapauling YES! I love that about writer community. #indiechat -8:12 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley #indiechat I have no plan, so I'm listening to what you all have to say. My main goal these days is launching chapter book & staying sane -8:12 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @LynNerdKelley I think that's where most of us start. #indiechat -8:12 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @LM_Preston awesome! I want to make one for DITM to have ready. #indiechat -8:12 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn I also think writers need to consider their creative goals as well as business goals.Here's my 5 yr plan http://t.co/ZI1CaQhI #indiechat -8:12 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling So what's step one? #indiechat -8:12 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston @DeniseMSwank #indiechat where there any samples available specific to small publishers? books maybe? -8:12 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @KatGirl_Studio My plan is very "business like": Description of business, list of products, etc. #indiechat -8:12 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Karen_Hooper Yup, I figure I'll have to rewrite my plan once a year or so. Constant work in progress as things change. #indiechat -8:12 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Addison_Moore @laurapauling Agree and I think that's a good thing! #indiechat -8:13 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston You should. I wish I had finished mine. My husband pitched them. RT @KatGirl_Studio: I want to make one for DITM to have ready. #indiechat -8:13 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
HeatherSunseri RT @LynNerdKelley: #indiechat My main goal these days is launching chapter book & staying sane //Staying sane is overrated. ;) -8:13 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Stacey_WB @laurapauling Very true. Plan for when things are going well and when you have a horrible August! :) #indiechat -8:13 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak Hey, everybody. :) #indiechat -8:13 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @laurapauling Yes and no. You have to be open to change, but keeping a steady course despite ups n downs of sales is important #indiechat -8:13 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch I think it is very important to set goals and like @susankayequinn said you need time to review the plan, try one hour a month! #indiechat -8:13 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
SuttonShields @susankayequinn Makes sense. So, I reckon basically it's a trial and error process? #indiechat -8:13 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @DeniseMSwank ah. i bet they have one in my biz book. it's from 2002 but should still be good. #indiechat -8:13 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston @DeniseMSwank Should business plan include budget or is that separate? #indiechat -8:13 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @LM_Preston If you Google author business plans, you #indiechat -8:13 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @LM_Preston Ooops You'll get a lot of examples. More than I had last December. #indiechat -8:14 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @SuttonShields The whole industry is trial-n-error right now! :) #indiechat -8:14 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Karen_Hooper @Stacey_WB Maaan, August totally sucked. September wasnt much better. #indiechat -8:14 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @KatGirl_Studio YES! I think that would work. #indiechat -8:14 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes is this business plan or marketing plan? #indiechat -8:14 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
SuttonShields @LynNerdKelley The staying sane part seems to be the most challenging. lol #indiechat -8:14 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley RT @SuttonShields: @LynNerdKelley The staying sane part seems to be the most challenging. lol #indiechat Haha! For sure! -8:15 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio I'm hoping to work on this in Nov after the wedding. #indiechat -8:15 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch Lots of people are asking where to start. I think you should first make two word docs, one for your sales goals and 1 4 writing #indiechat -8:15 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @LM_Preston I have a budget as part of my business plan. I plan expenses for the next year. To produce a book, supplies, etc #indiechat -8:15 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
IndelibleWriter 5 secrets to self publishing via @DeniseMSwank http://t.co/h3VOjIIR #indiechat -8:15 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak I've written biz plans before, but not for writing. I just jumped in. Too much to do, too little time. #indiechat -8:15 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn It's important to know why you're in this game, too. To make a living? How much is that, exactly? To have readers? How many? #indiechat -8:15 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn RT @IndelibleWriter: 5 secrets to self publishing via @DeniseMSwank http://t.co/HI0dprPg #indiechat -8:16 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @srjohannes Good point! There should be 3 plans - marketing, business, and writing. What do you want to accomplish in these #indiechat -8:16 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak Seems to me there's so much you can't control (sales) that goals are hard to set. #indiechat -8:16 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank Last December, I realized I could make money doing this. Asked myself how much I wanted to make per month. #Indiechat -8:16 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Make sure your plan includes Long Term Thinking: http://t.co/l7NqRqUI #indiechat -8:16 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank How many books did I need to sell to make that happen? How many books did I have available? What was coming out and when? #Indiechat -8:17 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @Lisa_Nowak Setting a goal is more for motivation, if you want to make X sales, what can you do to get there? #indiechat -8:17 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn You can't control outcome (sales) only input (writing,publishing) @Lisa_Nowak theres so much you cant control (sales) #indiechat -8:17 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Addison_Moore @BiblioCrunch Well said! @srjohannes #indiechat -8:17 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 Even though I do not write (yet) I'm thinking of making some plans for myself as a blogger, author assistant, ect. #indiechat -8:18 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling Weighing price and number of books when you have a steady sales record is easier to judge. #indiechat -8:18 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Stacey_WB @Karen_Hooper I can't wait for January. lol #indiechat -8:18 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch RT @DeniseMSwank: RT @DeniseMSwank: Last December, I realized I could make money doing this. Asked myself how much I wanted to make per month. #Indiechat -8:18 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon #indiechat Check, checking in and out. Ned to do some #amwriting but Hi! -8:18 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @BiblioCrunch Nothing I do gets me there. LOL. #indiechat -8:18 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank Based on prev sales, how many did I expect to sell? What was it going to cost to produce books? Then I found my expected profit #indiechat -8:18 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Me too! @Stacey_WB: @Karen_Hooper I cant wait for January. lol #indiechat -8:18 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Addison_Moore For mine, I started with what kinds of books I'd be most interested in writing. #indiechat -8:18 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @Addison_Moore Thank you :) I love setting goals and plan making, it's why I do what I do. #indiechat -8:19 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling yes! RT @Addison_Moore: For mine, I started with what kinds of books I'd be most interested in writing. #indiechat -8:19 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Addison_Moore @MaganVernon Hi Magan! :) #indiechat -8:19 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon #indiechat Best thing I did for my 5 year plan was list potential roadblocks and then how I would overcome those, -8:19 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
HeatherSunseri RT @Addison_Moore: For mine, I started with what kinds of books I'd be most interested in writing. #indiechat //Absolutely #1!! -8:19 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @Froze8 If you want to be an author assistant, I am desperate for an intern. :) #indiechat -8:19 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
TrishMcCallan Remember when writing up a business plans to include how much income you need in reserves to make it through lean times. #indiechat -8:19 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon what were some of yours? #indiechat -8:19 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @MaganVernon I'm still waiting for that deleted scene! #indiechat -8:19 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Nice! @MaganVernon: #indiechat Best thing I did for my 5 year plan was list potential roadblocks and then how I would overcome #indiechat -8:20 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling Some of it seems common sense: plan, don't spend more than you have, estimate, adjust...etc #indiechat and don't forget to dream! -8:20 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @DeniseMSwank What do you think about diversifying - writing in more than one genre? @hughhowey is a big fan of that. #indiechat -8:20 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank You don't need to be a bestseller to make money. If you have 4 books at $2.99 and sell 250 a month each, that's about $2000 #indiechat -8:20 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @Lisa_Nowak I work for @srjohannes and @bibliocrunch but contact me! assistantk8(at)http://t.co/Tn5oilzP #indiechat -8:21 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce RT @MaganVernon: RT @MaganVernon: #indiechat Best thing I did for my 5 year plan was list potential roadblocks and then how I would overcome those, -8:21 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling There's def. opposing povs out there on staying in genre vs expanding genres #indiechat -8:21 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @susankayequinn I think diversification is GREAT. But only VERY LOYAL readers will cross genres. #indiechat -8:21 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @DeniseMSwank good point. #indiechat -8:21 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Karen_Hooper RT @laurapauling: RT @laurapauling: Some of it seems common sense: plan, don't spend more than you have, estimate, adjust...etc #indiechat and don't forge ... -8:21 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn This! @DeniseMSwank: You dont need to be a bestseller to make money. If you have 4 books at $2.99 & sell 250 a month each~$2000 #indiechat -8:21 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @Lisa_Nowak Then it may be time to look at things that could be holding your book back. Covers can be a huge one #indiechat -8:21 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston True RT @susankayequinn: This! @DeniseMSwank: If you have 4 books at $2.99 & sell 250 a month each~$2000 #indiechat -8:22 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @Froze8 #Indiechat There are plans in the works, :) -8:22 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce Good discussion about 5-year plans on #indiechat. Happening right now . -8:22 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank A lot of my business plan is my production schedule. I have every week booked out until next May. #Indiechat -8:22 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @DeniseMSwank I agree - but readers also read more than one genre (often). I like SF but also romance and will read fantasy too #indiechat -8:22 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @DeniseMSwank actually its more like $2990 #indiechat -8:22 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling And if something isn't selling, maybe that's a good time to try something new, challenge our writing. #indiechat -8:22 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
   
MaganVernon @DeniseMSwank @susankayequinn I crossed genres from YA sci fi to contemp NA and did awesome. #Indiechat -8:22 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch RT @laurapauling: RT @laurapauling: Some of it seems common sense: plan, don't spend more than you have, estimate, adjust...etc #indiechat and don't forge ... -8:23 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @BiblioCrunch I just changed my cover, and my free downloads seem to be picking up. Only 2 days, tho. :) #indiechat -8:23 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @KatGirl_Studio You only get 70% #indiechat -8:23 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn The best thing a new author can do is have a plan to get works out - set a reasonable schedule and stick to it! #indiechat -8:23 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @MaganVernon OH! I recommend it, but readers wont' always do it. #Indiechat -8:23 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @DeniseMSwank ah. duh, sorry. #indiechat -8:23 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @BiblioCrunch Also, having boy books sucks. Even my friends don't want to read it. They think it's about sports. NOT! #indiechat -8:23 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 I believe that crossing genres is good, what appeals to one reader may not appeal to another, if you have passion for both do it #indiechat -8:24 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes RT @IndelibleWriter: RT @IndelibleWriter: 5 secrets to self publishing via @DeniseMSwank http://t.co/h3VOjIIR #indiechat -8:24 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank I have three series. A very popular UF series, a rom com mystery series and a YA sci fi romance. #indiechat -8:24 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @Lisa_Nowak @bibliocrunch Jealous! My free downloads are still meh. But I have a really good sell ratio. #Indiechat -8:24 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @Froze8 Will do. :) #indiechat -8:24 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @KatGirl_Studio :) #indiechat -8:24 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
megan_petty As a new author, how hard is it really to get word out about your book so that you start making sales? #indiechat -8:24 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @MaganVernon OHHH I want in on this! #indiechat -8:24 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn lol, I had this nice schedule going and then I decided to get married. #indiechat -8:24 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @DeniseMSwank Has it been hard to juggle 3 genres? How do you adjust your plan for that? #indiechat -8:24 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes RT @susankayequinn: RT @susankayequinn: Make sure your plan includes Long Term Thinking: http://t.co/l7NqRqUI #indiechat -8:24 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn I personally think NA/Adult books do best in indie (& I write YA, but with adult appeal). Diversifying into that genre can help. #indiechat -8:25 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio Marriage and babies can change plans. :) #indiechat -8:25 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank You can't expect to put out one or two books a year as an indie and make a lot of money. You can, but it's an anomaly. #indiechat -8:25 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley Yep! RT @susankayequinn: Best thing a new author can do, have a plan to get works out - set a reasonable schedule & stick to it! #indiechat -8:25 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon #indiechat New twitter on the IPad makes is chat hard to follow. -8:25 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @Lisa_Nowak I haven't seen the new cover yet! Have you considered asking bloggers to post about it? #indiechat -8:25 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Is Chosen by @DeniseMSwank the UF series or the YA sci fi romance? #indiechat -8:25 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank Self-pubbing is long tail, long term. Your book is ALWAYS for sale. Build your books, your platform, your sales. #indiechat -8:26 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes dont be wooing my asst :) RT @Lisa_Nowak: @Froze8 If you want to be an author assistant, I am desperate for an intern. :) #indiechat -8:26 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Juliana_Haygert Shhhhh I'm spying over #indiechat =P *waves* -8:26 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @susankayequinn I think Indie is definitely a great place for NA #Indiechat -8:26 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @DeniseMSwank Well EVENTUALLY you'll make money. You'll get there faster with more works. But quality is also key. #indiechat -8:26 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @megan_petty yes that's my current road block, getting the word out. People love the book and it has a 4.5 rating but... #indiechat -8:26 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @Lisa_Nowak Maybe it's a branding issue? May be worth having someone take a look :) #indiechat -8:26 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @DeniseMSwank I think Here is the YA sci fi #indiechat -8:26 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce RT @megan_petty: I only have 1 novel out (sci-fi rom), but consistently sell 2-3/day. Be present, but not annoying in soc. media. #indiechat -8:26 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Battista_j @DeniseMSwank Exactly. You need to put out good product, but also a lot more of it to be successful. #indiechat -8:27 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @srjohannes @lisa_nowak @froze8 I usually woo with promises of aliens and chocolate. #Indiechat -8:27 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank Yes! RT @Froze8: crossing genres... what appeals to one reader may not appeal to another, if you have passion for both do it #indiechat -8:27 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes covers are critical! RT @Lisa_Nowak: @BiblioCrunch I just changed my cover, and free downloads seem to be picking up. #indiechat -8:27 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @Juliana_Haygert And now you are caught! #Indiechat -8:27 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @BiblioCrunch I'm still trying to find time to ask bloggers about my new paranormal. #indiechat -8:27 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio LOL Just wait until the babies wreck havoc #Ihavethree #oldernow #indiechat -8:27 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @MaganVernon @Lisa_Nowak Well like I said covers and branding. (Then of course the writing quality, editing is worth the cost :) #indiechat -8:27 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
HeatherSunseri @DeniseMSwank What are you saying? Write more than two books/year or plan on supplementing with shorter works? #indiechat -8:27 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Stacey_WB @KatGirl_Studio Ha ha, I had this nice schedule going and then my babies became kids. School, karate, swimming, dance lessons... #indiechat -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @BiblioCrunch It's a curse issue. I'm living inside a modern fairy tale. #indiechat -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston RT @HeatherSunseri: @DeniseMSwank What are you saying? Write more than two books/year or plan on supplementing with shorter work? #indiechat -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon #indiechat I think you can have 1-2 books a year and if they are quality, you will do just fine as an Indie. -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @megan_petty Honestly, it's getting harder and harder. There are more and more authors seeking attention and sales #indiechat -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @megan_petty How hard is it? Hard. But not impossible. Most important part: write a book people want to read. #seriously #indiechat -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn ya maybe in 5 years. #indiechat -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce RT @Battista_j: @DeniseMSwank ... put out good product, but also a lot more of it to be successful. #indiechat << Goes for trad. pub, too. -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Juliana_Haygert @MaganVernon ;) #indiechat -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @BiblioCrunch also, I'm working with Ali Cross on branding, and she rocks. #indiechat -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @Battista_j YES! Quality above quantity! #indiechat -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling The business plan is for any author, Indie or not. #indiechat -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes YES! RT @susankayequinn: @DeniseMSwank Well you'll make money. You'll get there faster with more works. quality is also key. #indiechat -8:28 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Addison_Moore @DeniseMSwank That is it in a nutshell! Excellent point. #indiechat -8:29 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @megan_petty That really depends! I'd just think of trying to reach out to bloggers they can be a great help! #indiechat -8:29 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley It's worse when they're teens! RT @susankayequinn: @KatGirl_Studio Just wait until the babies wreck havoc #Ihavethree #oldernow #indiechat -8:29 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @HeatherSunseri Yes, you need to put out AT LEAST 2 books a year. Short stories don't make much though. #indiechat -8:29 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
HeatherSunseri @Juliana_Haygert Hi, Juliana! *waves back* #indiechat -8:29 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling So problem solving seems to be a big part of being an indie author. Trying new things. #indiechat -8:29 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @Lisa_Nowak @bibliocrunch I decided to stop stressing. I did the 5 year plan and am looking at what works for marketing #Indiechat -8:29 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @srjohannes @Lisa_Nowak :) #indiechat -8:30 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @BiblioCrunch my writing quality is not an issue. My reviews, etc. are good. #indiechat -8:30 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @laurapauling It's VERY hard to juggle three genres. I'm cutting it down to two. #indiechat -8:30 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @DeniseMSwank Which ones are you sticking with? #indiechat -8:30 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @KatGirl_Studio @megan_petty Bloggers, bloggers, bloggers :D #indiechat -8:30 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce #indiechat Indie authors need to be willing to try new things and tweak approaches. That's where we have advantage over trad. pub writers. -8:31 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @susankayequinn CHOSEN is my UF series. I've sold 53K copies of Chosen #indiechat -8:31 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @MaganVernon Both of which I ADORE @srjohannes @lisa_nowak #indiechat -8:31 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @Froze8 well of course =^.^= #indiechat -8:31 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
SuttonShields Sometimes, I think the ultimate goal should be to write a LOT. It's what we LOVE more than anything. Rest will fall into place. #indiechat -8:31 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @susankayequinn YES Quality is KEY #indiechat -8:31 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston go rogue and think outside the box RT @MonicaEPierce: #indiechat Indie authors need to be willing to try new things and tweak approaches. -8:31 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @DeniseMSwank I think shorts can be hit or miss. Many people say their shorts don't sell, but some (incl mine) do well. #indiechat -8:31 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki Oops! Is it too late to join #indiechat? What's happening tonight? -8:31 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley WOW! Congrats! RT @DeniseMSwank: @susankayequinn CHOSEN is my UF series. I've sold 53K copies of Chosen #indiechat -8:31 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank Yes! RT @laurapauling: @DeniseMSwank I think Here is the YA sci fi #indiechat -8:31 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Sweet! @DeniseMSwank: @susankayequinn CHOSEN is my UF series. Ive sold 53K copies of Chosen #indiechat -8:32 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes alot of this seems 2B mrkt plans. 2 me biz plan is your publishing goals. Marketing is your sales goals and how to reach markets #indiechat -8:32 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @Lisa_Nowak @BiblioCrunch It can be hard but worth it, my blog has some great links http://t.co/fpiUCsc2 #indiechat -8:32 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Which one are you ditching? @DeniseMSwank: @laurapauling Its VERY hard to juggle three genres. Im cutting it down to two. #indiechat -8:32 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @susankayequinn I think shorts can do well, again, depending on the conflict and emotion that are there. #indiechat -8:32 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @susankayequinn I think the Handler does well b/c Julian is a main character. Don't you think? #indiechat -8:32 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @laurapauling I"m wrapping up my YA, I'll have a new UF and my rom com mystery. #indiechat -8:32 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn True. @MonicaEPierce Indie authors need to be willing to try new things and tweak approaches- advantage over trad. pub writers. #indiechat -8:32 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
SuttonShields I know I sound totally Pollyanna and dreamer-ish right now. lol Sorry. :/ #indiechat -8:32 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston @DeniseMSwank So ... publicist do you budget that in or not? #indiechat -8:33 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @DeniseMSwank Are those both adult? #indiechat -8:33 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LianaBrooks RT @DeniseMSwank: RT @DeniseMSwank: Yes! RT @laurapauling: @DeniseMSwank I think Here is the YA sci fi #indiechat -8:33 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon #indiechat At my day job we talk about setting smart goals. Making sure they are actually attainable. Same with a 5 yr plan. -8:33 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce #indiechat My plan is to offer shorts for free, then bundling for sale. All in support of pubbed novel. -8:33 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes hugh howey started and bestsells with shorts so you have 2 do what works 4 u Thats y plan helps RT @DeniseMSwank: @HeatherSunseri #indiechat -8:33 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @susankayequinn Shorts for me are a good way to get newsletter subscribers and way for other genre readers to try my UF #indiechat -8:33 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @Lisa_Nowak Good! And http://t.co/dMshhdZm also has a lot of other professionals if you are looking (and some new features) #indiechat -8:33 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @laurapauling Yes, my novels sell my shorts, because they're related. The Handler sells The Scribe, because it's related. #indiechat -8:34 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @LM_Preston I've never used a publicist. But I've done multiple book tours. #indiechat -8:34 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @srjohannes Or just trying a bit of everything to see what takes off. #indiechat -8:34 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LawsonWrites @LM_Preston @MonicaEPierce i published a serial today. 4 episodes in all. I'm excited to try something different. #indiechat -8:34 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @laurapauling Yes, both are adult. #indiechat -8:34 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @srjohannes Yes, very true. #indiechat -8:34 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Oh! And shorts (esp prequels) are an EXCELLENT way to get exposure (by letting them go FREE) #indiechat -8:34 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @LynNerdKelley Good to know, Lyn! I don't have a business plan but movie heading to production, I better listen up! #indiechat -8:34 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce RT @LawsonWrites: @LM_Preston i published a serial today. 4 episodes in all. I'm excited to try something different. #indiechat << awesome! -8:34 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak Crap. I just dropped my fire poker in the fire and burnt the wooden handle. :P #indiechat -8:34 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @DeniseMSwank I really enjoyed HERE, which I believe is your YA. Looking forward to trying the others. #indiechat -8:35 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @MaganVernon And knowing when to get help is a good thing too. Stressing never helps! #indiechat -8:35 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
megan_petty @laurapauling @susankayequinn @HeatherSunseri Shorts may not sell well, but would still contribute to your income overall, right? #indiechat -8:35 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank What works for one author won't necessarily work for another. #indiechat -8:35 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce RT @BiblioCrunch: RT @BiblioCrunch: @MaganVernon And knowing when to get help is a good thing too. Stressing never helps! #indiechat -8:35 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @DeniseMSwank *tears* But I can see why the YA/SF would be the least selling of those three genres. #indiechat -8:35 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling So true! RT @DeniseMSwank: What works for one author won't necessarily work for another. #indiechat -8:35 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @laurapauling Thank you! I'm working on THERE right now. #indiechat -8:35 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @Lisa_Nowak Then I'd look at the cover/branding. Make it appealing to both genders :) #indiechat -8:35 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak Way to go! :) #indiechat -8:35 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce RT @DeniseMSwank: What works for one author won't necessarily work for another. #indiechat << Yes. Be flexible and don't give up. -8:35 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn really? offering free shorts really helps? #indiechat -8:36 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Angchelle RT @susankayequinn: RT @susankayequinn: Oh! And shorts (esp prequels) are an EXCELLENT way to get exposure (by letting them go FREE) #indiechat -8:36 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston And we can explore selfishly - we are the boss :-D RT @MonicaEPierce: RT @LawsonWrites: @ try something different. #indiechat << awesome! -8:36 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling Then there's that short story about the goat that took off. :) #indiechat -8:36 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @BiblioCrunch On my 5 yr plan I also have a list of "people to help me reach my goals" #Indiechat It's a list of groups and experts -8:36 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki Congratulations!!! RT @KatGirl_Studio: I'm hoping to work on this in Nov after the wedding. #indiechat -8:36 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank Yes! Agree! RT @laurapauling: The business plan is for any author, Indie or not. #indiechat -8:36 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @KatGirl_Studio <3 #indiechat -8:36 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes hard thing is measuring your results. some are easily measured, some are not. #indiechat -8:36 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @LynNerdKelley My big challenge is that people tell me they'll just wait for the 1st movie to be released! :-( #indiechat -8:37 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki thanks =^.^= only 26 days left to go. eek!!! #indiechat -8:37 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce RT @srjohannes: hard thing is measuring your results. some are easily measured, some are not. #indiechat << And some are long-term. -8:37 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @laurapauling I consider being an indie author as kind of game. It's always changing. I'm always adapting. #indiechat -8:37 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio Yes, really. My free short Mind Games is a prequel to the series. People read it, then go on to buy the books. #indiechat -8:37 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @LynNerdKelley But those who do buy return for all the movie optioned novels or the entire series (9 novels)! #indiechat -8:37 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @srjohannes And you should have BOTH plans! Plus a writing plan (how you want to improve your skills, what topics u want to do) #indiechat -8:37 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LawsonWrites @LM_Preston @MonicaEPierce Yes! That's my favorite part! Pushing boundaries. #indiechat -8:37 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley @LornaSuzuki Why are they waiting till the 1st movie is released? #indiechat -8:38 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki really? I haven't had a chance to read it yet but it's on my TBR pile #indiechat -8:38 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @laurapauling Midnight's Tale! #awesome Just shows that length doesn't really matter - write something people love. #indiechat -8:38 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley How exciting! Woo hoo! RT @KatGirl_Studio: @LornaSuzuki thanks =^.^= only 26 days left to go. eek!!! #indiechat -8:38 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce RT @LawsonWrites: @LM_Preston Yes! That's my favorite part! Pushing boundaries. #indiechat <<If something doesn't work, try another, right? -8:38 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston Yep @LornaSuzuki: @LynNerdKelley But those who do buy return for all the movie optioned novels or the entire series (9 novels)! #indiechat -8:38 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @DeniseMSwank I think being willing to adapt is crucial. And not let not emotions sway our decisions. #indiechat -8:39 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn but what if the prequel would give too much away? Ruin the surprises in the series? #indiechat -8:39 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
beccajcampbell RT @DeniseMSwank: @laurapauling I consider being an indie author as kind of game. It's always changing. I'm always adapting. #indiechat -8:39 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley Fantastic! RT @LornaSuzuki: But those who do buy return for all the movie optioned novels or the entire series (9 novels)! #indiechat -8:39 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Stacey_WB @susankayequinn That's what she said. Sorry! I couldn't resist. #indiechat -8:39 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @susankayequinn I loved Midnight's Tale. Course, I bought it to see what the fuss was. Same with Wool. Loved them both. #indiechat -8:39 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio You're the writer - you can keep that from happening. :) My prequel is from a diff POV, shortly before the series #indiechat -8:40 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling So how many pages is a typical business plan or marketing plan or writing plan? #indiechat -8:40 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Stacey_WB RT @laurapauling: @DeniseMSwank I think being willing to adapt is crucial. And not let not emotions sway our decisions. #indiechat -8:40 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce RT @KatGirl_Studio: @susankayequinn but what if the prequel would give too much away? #indiechat << Readers still want the *how*. -8:40 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @KatGirl_Studio Yes! I hope once I can announce director & the actors we'll be locking down to star, books sales might pick up. #indiechat -8:40 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @Stacey_WB yeah, and now my hand is all black from picking up a charred fire poker. :P #indiechat -8:40 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn my prequel is 4 years before the Trilogy and reveals all the things not covered in the Trilogy so... #indiechat -8:40 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn YES! If I pick up a free short and read it and love the characters I'll buy the book! #indiechat -8:41 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank My business plan is not set in stone. I change it to fit my BUSINESS needs. I cut my YA to 2 books based on sales. #Indiechat -8:41 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon #indiechat I'm gonna just keep talking 5 yr plan. Mine includes: 1 yr goal, set backs, support, education, steps 2success, and progress chks -8:41 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
beccajcampbell I'm lurking...not exactly here; wish the house wasn't crazy right now. #indiechat -8:41 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston This is so awesome for you ! Truly wonderful. RT @LornaSuzuki: @KatGirl_Studio Yes! books sales might pick up. #indiechat -8:41 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @DeniseMSwank Very smart to go with what's selling. #indiechat As long as you still enjoy it. #indiechat -8:41 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @LornaSuzuki *crosses fingers* #indiechat -8:41 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce RT @MaganVernon: RT @MaganVernon: #indiechat I'm gonna just keep talking 5 yr plan. Mine includes: 1 yr goal, set backs, support, education, steps 2succe ... -8:41 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @MaganVernon Good plan! Lists of resources, professionals, ect. are all good! #indiechat -8:41 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio Doesn't mean you can't write a different story as a short-think of it as a teaser (but also needs to be complete) #indiechat -8:41 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @laurapauling Mine is one and a half pages. With bullet points and headers. I guess I can share it someday. #Indiechat -8:41 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @laurapauling Yes, I would never write something I didn't love and wouldn't NOT write something I really wanted to. #indiechat #indiechat -8:42 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @MaganVernon Mine is about 1.5 pages too. With lists and goals. Some in my control some I can't control. #indiechat -8:42 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Back to planning: plan doesn't have to be elaborate, but it should be well thought out, so that it reflects your TRUE goals #indiechat -8:42 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn good idea. I'll add that to my To Do list #indiechat -8:42 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
beccajcampbell RT @Froze8: RT @Froze8: @KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn YES! If I pick up a free short and read it and love the characters I'll buy the book! #indiechat -8:42 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon that's sounds good. Maybe I'll do something similar. #indiechat -8:42 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LawsonWrites My long term plan is writing. writing. writing and writing. #indiechat -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Stacey_WB @DeniseMSwank Love that you went with what's selling. #indiechat -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn The Freedom of Indie! #love @DeniseMSwank: @laurapauling Yes, I would never NOT write something I really wanted to #indiechat -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston Realistic baby steps in order to see what works or doesn't RT @susankayequinn: it reflects your TRUE goals #indiechat -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @LM_Preston thank you! I am very grateful to all my readers & especially happy when they return for more! #indiechat -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling As to what I'm writing, that changes a lot as I sift through ideas. #indiechat -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @laurapauling I think that is up to you, how much do you want to plan out? #indiechat -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @BiblioCrunch I based it off a Fortune 500 company's Independent Decelopment Plan #Indiechat -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @DeniseMSwank what did you include in your plan? #indiechat -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn And that's really the heart of it. @LawsonWrites: My long term plan is writing. writing. writing and writing. #indiechat -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley I like your plan! RT @LawsonWrites: My long term plan is writing. writing. writing and writing. #indiechat -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
megan_petty #indiechat How soon should you start a plan -- when you're ready to publish or while you're still writing your book? -8:43 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston @LornaSuzuki That's what it's about, finding YOUR book's audience and feeding them #indiechat -8:44 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank But this is my career now. I make my living doing this. Money is an important factor in my decisions and plan. #indiechat -8:44 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @KatGirl_Studio Ill post mine this week or next. Keeps me in check. #Indiechat -8:44 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston Wonderful inspiration RT @DeniseMSwank: But this is my career now. I make my living doing this. Money is an important factor . #indiechat -8:44 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @laurapauling What do you do about what you can't control? #Indiechat -8:44 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @Stacey_WB I solved the problem: My DD writes YA fantasy with me now & I'm her martial arts teacher! ;-) #indiechat -8:44 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn Maybe write a different kind of short? Something with the same characters but not spoily. #indiechat -8:44 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon cool i'll be on the look out for it. #indiechat -8:45 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch I have at least 3 years planned out b/c once I went Indie, I had so much more creativity. #indiechat -8:45 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @KatGirl_Studio I listed products-- books, audiobooks, shorts I planned to write, a financial plan, my production schedule #indiechat -8:45 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @megan_petty Write a creative plan first. Then, when you have something you think is ready to publish,write a bus./marketing plan #indiechat -8:45 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak I'm running 2 small businesses so my goals have to be very fluid for writing. I have a responsibility to my other customers. #indiechat -8:45 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch good idea. #indiechat -8:45 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @DeniseMSwank I think the kind of plan you make after you have a few works out is different than first-time plan. #indiechat -8:45 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley So cool! RT @LornaSuzuki: @Stacey_WB I solved the problem: My DD writes YA fantasy with me now & I'm her martial arts teacher! #indiechat -8:45 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Stacey_WB @LornaSuzuki That's great! Someday... #indiechat -8:46 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @susankayequinn Yes, COMPLETELY agree. I'm changing my next year plan based on THIS year. #indiechat -8:46 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @laurapauling Sounds good! :) #indiechat -8:46 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @MaganVernon I adjust me expectations. If something isn't selling well, I wrap it up and move on. #indiechat -8:46 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @MaganVernon Hoping to come back later if it picks up in sales. #indiechat -8:46 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @susankayequinn Yes, I agree. A creative plan is best to start with. #indiechat -8:46 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Flexible is key @laurapauling: @MaganVernon I adjust me expectations. If something isnt selling well, I wrap it up and move on. #indiechat -8:46 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MonicaEPierce #indiechat Talk about being flexible. Hub's just got home w/dinner. Gotta go. Great chat. Thanks for letting me lurk. -8:47 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling Yes! @DeniseMSwank I think the kind of plan you make after you have a few works out is different than first-time plan. #indiechat -8:47 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak Totally agree. :) RT @LawsonWrites: My long term plan is writing. writing. writing and writing. #indiechat -8:47 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon @laurapauling I did something similar with a setbacks and ways to overcome them list #Indiechat -8:47 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley @MonicaEPierce LOL! Bye Monica! #indiechat -8:47 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Addison_Moore I tend to over fill my goal calendar. I'm OK if I fall a little short. I prefer it to setting goals that r 2 easy. #indiechat -8:47 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @DeniseMSwank Also, once you hit 150k *cough* @DeniseMSwank *cough* you're justified in setting your sights higher. :) #indiechat -8:47 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LawsonWrites @susankayequinn @lynnerdkelley really it's the main goal right? With some business thrown in on the side #indiechat -8:47 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @MonicaEPierce Thanks for coming! :) #indiechat -8:48 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston Mee too! RT @Addison_Moore: I tend to over fill my goal calendar. #indiechat -8:48 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank W/O writing you have NOTHING RT @Lisa_Nowak: Totally agree. :) RT @LawsonWrites: My long term plan is writing, and writing. #indiechat -8:48 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling I think that's important to keep in mind. Plans changes based on how the current plan is working. #indiechat -8:48 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley Yep! RT @LawsonWrites: @susankayequinn @lynnerdkelley really it's the main goal right? With some business thrown in on the side #indiechat -8:48 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @susankayequinn ROFL Yeah, I sold more than I expected. ;) #indiechat -8:48 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio My current big obstacle is getting the book "out there" and noticed. #indiechat -8:49 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Which means it's time for a new plan! #congrats @DeniseMSwank: @susankayequinn ROFL Yeah, I sold more than I expected. ;) #indiechat -8:49 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Steenaholmes just arrived late to #indiechat and checking out the topic! -8:49 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki Some tell me they don't have time 2 read.Watching movie is easier!RT @LynNerdKelley:Why r they waiting til 1st movie is released? #indiechat -8:49 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling Check out Denise's Amazon page for all her stories! http://t.co/zZGiQIlv #indiechat -8:49 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank I'm doing 3 guest blog posts on WG2E Friday-Sunday about my business plan. I go through it section by section. #indiechat -8:50 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio How many books do you have out? #indiechat -8:50 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @megan_petty I'd start before, but don't spend too much time on it, writing is still important! #indiechat -8:50 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley @LornaSuzuki You're right. There are lots of people who don't read. :( #indiechat -8:50 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @Steenaholmes Welcome! We're talking about business/creative 5 yr (and 1 yr) plans #indiechat -8:50 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling And here's Sue's Amazon page for her books! http://t.co/tR4de9gV #indiechat -8:50 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki Give it time. My DD is 14 & we're working on our 4th YA fantasyRT @Stacey_WB: @LornaSuzuki That's great! Someday... #indiechat -8:50 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn RT @DeniseMSwank: Im doing 3 guest blog posts on WG2E Friday-Sunday about my business plan. I go through it section by section. #indiechat -8:51 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @DeniseMSwank What's WG2E? link? #indiechat -8:51 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling RT @DeniseMSwank: I'm doing 3 guest blog posts on WG2E Friday-Sunday about my business plan. I go through it section by section. #indiechat -8:51 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank I think an important part of a business/long term plan is name branding. Don't underestimate this. #indiechat -8:51 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn just the one so far. Book 2 comes out his winter. #indiechat -8:51 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn just started in May #indiechat -8:51 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
SuttonShields Y'all are SO far ahead of me!!! I feel super naive right now. Is this a normal feeling? #indiechat -8:51 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @KatGirl_Studio WG2E http://t.co/WJG2VkKS #indiechat -8:52 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MacStainless #Indiechat I’ve never even thought of coming up with a 5-year plan. Sounds like it’s a major component to success. I need to seriously get 1 -8:52 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio Reviews/book bloggers for Book#1, then focus on getting Book#2 out - those are the most important things. #indiechat -8:52 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @DeniseMSwank thanks! #indiechat -8:52 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Steenaholmes @susankayequinn thinking about creating a plan scares me. #indiechat -8:52 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley Very normal. Me, too! RT @SuttonShields: Y'all are SO far ahead of me!!! I feel super naive right now. Is this a normal feeling? #indiechat -8:52 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @SuttonShields Everyone has to start somewhere. :) #indiechat -8:52 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Yes. :) It's a steep learning curve @SuttonShields: I feel super naive right now. Is this a normal feeling? #indiechat -8:52 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Steenaholmes @DeniseMSwank good question to ask yourself! #indiechat -8:52 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @Steenaholmes Really? Why? #indiechat -8:53 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Steenaholmes RT @DeniseMSwank: RT @DeniseMSwank: I think an important part of a business/long term plan is name branding. Don't underestimate this. #indiechat -8:53 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling A business or marketing plan doesn't mean success. It's to keep us organized, making good decision with our money& time. #indiechat -8:53 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn I did a 2 week 32 blog book tour in June for book 1. #indiechat -8:53 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @MacStainless Here's my post on it (might help?) http://t.co/ZI1CaQhI #indiechat -8:53 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @laurapauling A good business plan will help you focus on what needs to be done. You're right, doesn't guarantee success #indiechat -8:54 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @Steenaholmes Hi Steena! #indiechat -8:54 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio I kept sending out review requests (not part of a blog tour) for 6 mos after Bk1 came out-200+ total req #indiechat -8:54 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
brendapandos hi #indiechat -8:55 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @Steenaholmes try your local small biz development center at a community college. #indiechat -8:55 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Yes! @DeniseMSwank @laurapauling A good business plan will help you focus on what needs to be done. doesnt guarantee success #indiechat -8:55 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Steenaholmes @susankayequinn no idea. I have a yearly plan that just went out the window so I need a redo. #indiechat -8:55 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank When I made my plan, it helped me think about what *I* wanted to write. When I wanted to write it. It made me focused on WRITING #indiechat -8:55 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Steenaholmes @LornaSuzuki Hi back :) can't believe I'm late to #indiechat -8:55 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki #indiechat Psst, tweeps! @Steenaholmes is the featured author on my All Kinds of Writing blog! What a success story!! http://t.co/KoeGRrU2 -8:55 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling And w/out a product we have no business. So a plan keeps us on track. #indiechat Put on the big girl Indie pants! -8:56 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank I'm part business owner, part author. It's easy to get sucked into the business and neglect the writing. #indiechat -8:56 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
jclillis @LynNerdKelley @SuttonShields Me too, definitely. You're not alone! #indiechat -8:56 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley RT @LornaSuzuki: RT @LornaSuzuki: #indiechat Psst, tweeps! @Steenaholmes is the featured author on my All Kinds of Writing blog! What a success story!! h ... -8:56 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @Steenaholmes Hi sTeena! #indiechat -8:56 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Steenaholmes @Lisa_Nowak thanks Lisa :) I had a plan that needs altering with no time to do it. I like flying by the seat of my pants ;) #indiechat -8:56 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @Steenaholmes I brainstormed my core beliefs re:writing/creativity,then worked up 5yr goals from that.It was actually cool to do. #indiechat -8:56 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank My production schedule keeps me on track. I have my editors schedule to the DAY until next Sept. #indiechat -8:56 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @LynNerdKelley All my guy friends say it's just easier 4 them to watch the movie than to read the books b4 the movie is released. #indiechat -8:56 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling any last questions for our authors about creating the business or marketing plan? #indiechat -8:56 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Steenaholmes @laurapauling good point Laura! #indiechat -8:57 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KimberlyABettes RT @DeniseMSwank: RT @DeniseMSwank: I'm part business owner, part author. It's easy to get sucked into the business and neglect the writing. #indiechat -8:57 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling Though I think the marketing plan is a whole nother topic. #indiechat -8:57 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley @LornaSuzuki Sounds like my husband! #indiechat -8:57 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank LOL YES! RT @laurapauling: Though I think the marketing plan is a whole nother topic. #indiechat -8:57 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
megan_petty #indiechat What methods of marketing do you use? -8:57 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @DeniseMSwank wow #indiechat -8:57 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley #indiechat Thanks for the links in this chat. You've all got me thinking! -8:58 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @DeniseMSwank Name branding is great but everyone hears my name & thinks motorcycles, not fantasy novels! *sigh* #indiechat -8:58 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
jclillis @KatGirl_Studio Mine too. Just released a week ago & I'm already stressing out. Have to remind myself it may take time to build. #indiechat -8:58 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Steenaholmes @susankayequinn do you leave room for unexpected surprises in your plan? I didn't which means redoing it. #indiechat -8:58 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Lisa_Nowak @Steenaholmes me too. SBDC can help. They have classes cheap. #indiechat -8:58 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @jclillis Slow and steady is how you build indie sales. #indiechat -8:58 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @LornaSuzuki Finding time is hard but on my blog I do have links to lists of bloggers :) #indiechat -8:58 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
brendapandos @DeniseMSwank So true. I have to keep my nose to the grindstone wordcount wise or I'll lose track of time #indiechat -8:58 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
SuttonShields @DeniseMSwank I'm glad you said that. I don't have a plan at all, apart from writing my stories. May that count as a sorta plan? #indiechat -8:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @LornaSuzuki You could also use this to your advantage! more memorable! #indiechat -8:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MaganVernon #indiechat Alright goodnight all. Time for some #amediting -8:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @Froze8 you do? How did i miss this? #indiechat -8:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @Steenaholmes I think big changes require redoing. #notabadthing I met my 5yr goal in 1 yr, so had to make a new plan. #goodthing #indiechat -8:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @SuttonShields YES! Right now you need to focus on WRITING :) #indiechat -8:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling Thanks so much @DeniseMSwank and @susankayequinn for chatting tonight! #indiechat -8:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley @MaganVernon Good night! #indiechat -8:59 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @laurapauling Thanks for having me! #indiechat -9:00 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MacStainless #indiechat I find marketing is incredibly hard. Most blogs don’t take indie submissions, free books dilute brand, twitter get spammy. -9:00 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @SuttonShields Well we are all here to help! #indiechat -9:00 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @laurapauling Thanks for hosting tonight! :) #indiechat -9:00 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @TimDMoon Yep! In fact,Book 3 of our YA fantasy The Dream Merchant Saga is being released Oct. 20th!Received great reviews on ARC!#indiechat -9:00 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley Thx for sharing. Great chat! RT @laurapauling: Thanks so much @DeniseMSwank and @susankayequinn for chatting tonight! #indiechat -9:00 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio I agree! Keep asking bloggers if they want to review! :) #indiechat -9:00 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Stacey_WB RT @laurapauling: Thanks so much @DeniseMSwank and @susankayequinn for chatting tonight! // Great info! #indiechat -9:01 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Steenaholmes @susankayequinn exactly - my goals are all met and i'm having to replan #notabadthing indeed. #indiechat -9:01 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LawsonWrites thanks #indiechat -9:01 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling @Steenaholmes Not a bad thing at all! #indiechat Aim for the stars! -9:01 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch I ran through the list I had so I need to find more. #indiechat -9:01 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @DeniseMSwank Just keeping fingers crossed books sales will pick up once film producer announces cast, director, etc. #indiechat -9:01 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Steenaholmes @susankayequinn I have a feeling I missed a lot tonight - can't wait for the low down later on! #indiechat -9:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @Steenaholmes Your success is awesome! It's great that you get to set new goals. #moreawesomeahead :) #indiechat -9:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
DeniseMSwank @LornaSuzuki Yes, they are bound to! Publicity alone. #indiechat -9:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston It's been fun and informative #indiechat -9:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @MacStainless Don't get discouraged. Focus on the writing, because that truly is the most important thing. #indiechat -9:02 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling So is everyone off to tweak or write their business plans? #indiechat -9:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LynNerdKelley #indiechat Good night, all! -9:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling yes... after dance class lol. #indiechat -9:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
laurapauling Okay, good night everyone! #indiechat -9:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LM_Preston Will u be able to keep up with supply :-D RT @LornaSuzuki: @DeniseMSwankbooks sales will pick up announcement cast, director. #indiechat -9:03 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MacStainless @susankayequinn Is frustrating, but I solider on. They say the best way to sell more is to write more. I’m doing just that. #indiechat -9:04 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @MacStainless Then you're on the right path. :) #goodluck! #indiechat -9:05 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes To me - a biz plan is where you want to be in your writing career in 5 yrs and how you get there - classes, craft, sales etc #indiechat -9:05 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
LornaSuzuki @jclillis Took 10 yrs for my novels 2 B optioned 4 a major motion pic. trilogy, but even heading into production, sales r slow! #indiechat -9:05 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn Night indiechatters! #indiechat -9:05 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MacStainless @susankayequinn Thanks! Taking full advantage of indie. Had short story idea last week & I aim to self-pub in three weeks. Yowza! #indiechat -9:06 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
srjohannes the mrk plan is a plan author branding as well as each of your book's brand. Who ur books target, how u reach them, & sales goals #indiechat -9:06 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
susankayequinn @MacStainless I know right?? I love that. Such flexibility, letting the creativity loose. #awesome #indiechat -9:08 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
jclillis @LornaSuzuki Wow, that's good to know. Thanks! #indiechat -9:09 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
jclillis @SuttonShields @LynNerdKelley Pull up a chair. You have a friend at the IndieNoob Cafe. Double espresso? #indiechat -9:10 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
jclillis @LynNerdKelley p.s. I automatically like anyone with "nerd" right in her Twitter handle. #indiechat -9:11 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MacStainless @susankayequinn Yeah! It may be an epic fail of an experiment, but can’t knock the freedom & speed of idea to final so fast. #indiechat -9:11 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
KatGirl_Studio @jclillis can I have one too! #indiechat -9:12 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
Froze8 @MacStainless Check out my blog, I have lists of bloggers who take indie http://t.co/fpiUCsc2 #indiechat -9:15 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
MacStainless @jclillis Add me in too. I’m still learning even with 3 books self-pubbed. Such a crowded realm right now. #indiechat -9:16 PM Oct 2nd, 2012
  
BiblioCrunch @srjohannes I think that's what I call the writing plan #indiechat -9:17 PM Oct 2nd, 2012

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